Langley Spinlite Special
Langley Spinlite Special
I just picked up a very nice Langley Spinlite Special Model 852B, marked patent applied for. The reel is a cutie and smooth as silk with a great bail snap -- but it has no anti-reverse. Is this normal? When I popped it open I couldn't see anything that would work as an anti-reverse but I may just be too dense to figure it out...
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clinton_beeler
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Langley 852B
ak-fish,
Yes your reel does have a full-time anti-reverse which also acts to center the bail at the top, when the handle is backed up. Yours is simply not working. To check it out you need to remove the rotor. On the bottom of the rotor you will see a brass cresent shaped dog. To the right of the top of the dog is a narrow slit. A small piece of black rubberized material fits it the slit and extends outward toward the edge of the inside of the rotor. The rubberized material disintegrates over time causing the anti-reverse to fail. You will also notice a triangular extension on the inside and bottom of the rotor. This is the actuator for the anti-reverse. The narrow rubberized strip in the dog catches the actuator when the handle is backed up causing the dog to shift position and stop the rotor. This is repairable. First pay attention to the position of the dog and then remove it. Then using a thin blade (I use an exacto knife) remove what is left of th rubberized strip in the slit on the dog. Then you need to find some plastic bottles, containers, or lids, that one can experiment on. Cut a small straight strip (about 1/8" wide & 5/16" long) from the plastic item. The plastic has to be flexible and resilient. The thickness of the plastic strip has to be the correct thickness so that it will fit in the slit on the dog. Also you will have to experiment with the length of the strip. Too long or too short will not work. The strip has to be long enough so that it will contact the triangular actuator and short enough so it will not bind on the inside of the rotor. It does take time to find the right kind & thickness of plastic and to get the length correct. Sooner or later you will get it right and the anti-reverse will work as it should. If you don't want to do this yourself I would be happy to do so. Just drop me a line. Randy
Yes your reel does have a full-time anti-reverse which also acts to center the bail at the top, when the handle is backed up. Yours is simply not working. To check it out you need to remove the rotor. On the bottom of the rotor you will see a brass cresent shaped dog. To the right of the top of the dog is a narrow slit. A small piece of black rubberized material fits it the slit and extends outward toward the edge of the inside of the rotor. The rubberized material disintegrates over time causing the anti-reverse to fail. You will also notice a triangular extension on the inside and bottom of the rotor. This is the actuator for the anti-reverse. The narrow rubberized strip in the dog catches the actuator when the handle is backed up causing the dog to shift position and stop the rotor. This is repairable. First pay attention to the position of the dog and then remove it. Then using a thin blade (I use an exacto knife) remove what is left of th rubberized strip in the slit on the dog. Then you need to find some plastic bottles, containers, or lids, that one can experiment on. Cut a small straight strip (about 1/8" wide & 5/16" long) from the plastic item. The plastic has to be flexible and resilient. The thickness of the plastic strip has to be the correct thickness so that it will fit in the slit on the dog. Also you will have to experiment with the length of the strip. Too long or too short will not work. The strip has to be long enough so that it will contact the triangular actuator and short enough so it will not bind on the inside of the rotor. It does take time to find the right kind & thickness of plastic and to get the length correct. Sooner or later you will get it right and the anti-reverse will work as it should. If you don't want to do this yourself I would be happy to do so. Just drop me a line. Randy
2 different style reels!!
jump usa,Clinto , not only is your reel contain a anti rev. set up it also is designed for a pick up hook # hh , or as some call it a finger bail , or it also will have a full bail! I will send you a copy of the factory manual, and a copy of the 850b and 852b, there is a lot of defferance in these reels, AK fish if you will send me your physical mailing address I will send you the sam 2 manual pages, these reels were 1955 according to my manuals and the parts manuals show on the 850 series its printed in OCT 1954, the 850b and 852b was printed in 8month 1956 trust this helps a wee bit! Your Ohio Conection On Lake ERIE COL. Milton Lorens aka SWIM JIG address 759 Terra Lane Amherst Ohio 44001-1116-07Thanks!
Wow! Thanks for all the help. When I get back from Egypt at the end of the month-- I'm off on Thursday to celebrate victory over prostate cancer by catching a few Nile perch -- I'll fix the AR. I don't collect spinning reels, but this is a nice one!
Tight Lines everyone.
Tight Lines everyone.
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Alan Baracco
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Guys,
Randy is right (as usual) but rather verbose. In Langley speak the brass part he is talking about is the "position latch", part HH as the good Col. points out. I have found that the self centering function on these Langley reels is kind of hit or miss, depending on the "throw" of the backward motion of the handle.
P.S. the rubber parts are often found inside the reel after they break apart. Alan
Randy is right (as usual) but rather verbose. In Langley speak the brass part he is talking about is the "position latch", part HH as the good Col. points out. I have found that the self centering function on these Langley reels is kind of hit or miss, depending on the "throw" of the backward motion of the handle.
P.S. the rubber parts are often found inside the reel after they break apart. Alan
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Mike Bradford
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I know this is an old thread.
I also have an old Langley Spinlite "Deluxe" Model 850. I had forgotten about the automatic anti reverse. I will have to give the "plastic bottle" trick a try. The problem I am having is with the screw that holds the bale on. Do any of you know if there is a shim that is supposed to go on either side of this screw? When I tighten the screw down, the bale will not swing. When I loosen it up enough that the bale swings, the screw backs out. I would love to have a copy of the parts diagram if anyone still has it.
This reel was my Dad's, and I fished with it as a kid. I am now 58 years old. I do not intend to fish with this reel, but things that don't work as intended drive me around the bend.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. By the way, this reel along with a Sila Flex rod were given to my Dad. I also have the rod, and it is personally inscribed to my Dad from the owner of the Sila Flex company.
This reel was my Dad's, and I fished with it as a kid. I am now 58 years old. I do not intend to fish with this reel, but things that don't work as intended drive me around the bend.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. By the way, this reel along with a Sila Flex rod were given to my Dad. I also have the rod, and it is personally inscribed to my Dad from the owner of the Sila Flex company.
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Jim Madden
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Mike, I've run into that problem with other spinning reels. This may not be the case in your reel , but often the bail has been bumped enough during use that it is bent slightly out of shape. Sometimes you can tell only by comparing it to a second reel. The bend near the retaining screw needs to be exactly correct for the bail to pivot correctly. If you don't have a second reel, it's a hit or miss operation that may take several bends. It has worked for me in the past, but there is always the risk that you'll do it more damage. There just aren't a lot of repair shops out there anymore where you can send old reels. Jim
If its anything like the 810, here is a picture with the anti reverse engaged.
I think this one might be alittle earlier, but I looked up some photos of the 852, and it looks like there is a chance it might be similar. Anyways, hope the picture might help. Edit: (After reading the post from FSREPAIR, I'm not sure it will but I'll leave the picture up just incase).
They're built nicely, and pretty smooth reels after there all cleaned up. I still fish the one pictured above.
Mike Bradford, my bail had the same problem, I used some loctite on the screw, and that seemed to help prevent it from backing out on me. With loctite, you will still be able to back the screw out if you ever need to at a later date.
I think this one might be alittle earlier, but I looked up some photos of the 852, and it looks like there is a chance it might be similar. Anyways, hope the picture might help. Edit: (After reading the post from FSREPAIR, I'm not sure it will but I'll leave the picture up just incase).
They're built nicely, and pretty smooth reels after there all cleaned up. I still fish the one pictured above.
Mike Bradford, my bail had the same problem, I used some loctite on the screw, and that seemed to help prevent it from backing out on me. With loctite, you will still be able to back the screw out if you ever need to at a later date.
Re: Langley Spinlite Special
I tried the plastic bottle trick on one of those as well and it worked fine for the anti-reverse and self-centering. Any idea what is a normal click on those? It hits that piece once each time around. Would that be normal?
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