Hardy Altex no.1 mk.IV reel teardown and restore

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Hardy Altex no.1 mk.IV reel teardown and restore

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1935 Edward Broadfoot Hardy Altex no.1 mk IV
with mechanical bail.
Complete teardown and cleaning of every part and there were a bunch! Look at those tiny bearings! Lol
Original finish was long gone, so
I am going to repaint body and flier dust cover and leave flier stripped/ polished and polish all brass fitments/ hardware.
It has repaired handle and added knob. Looks like an old repair, as wood knob is crazed and looks vintage.
I have a new correct handle en route, so no big deal.

BTW: I had to make 2 different tools to disassemble this 90 year old technical beauty. It has been the most challenging one to date, next to my Swiss made 2 speed 1954 Benora Standard. I included a few pics of it, as well.
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Nice to see someone playing with spinning reels! :cool :D
Love those Open Face Spinning Reels! (Especially ABU & ABU/Zebco)

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Midway Tommy D wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:09 pm Nice to see someone playing with spinning reels! :cool :D
Yes. I love my old reels on modern rods.
All I use for freshwater panfishing.
New reels just don't have the swagger.
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Document step-by-step and post, w/pics, your reassembly process so those of us that have never tackled one has a tutorial to work off of. :)

BTW, a Benora 2 speed instructional would be nice, too.
Love those Open Face Spinning Reels! (Especially ABU & ABU/Zebco)

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Wonderful project! I find reel work downright meditative. And making/modifying your own tools -all the better. Very 😎.
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Midway Tommy D wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:37 pm Document step-by-step and post, w/pics, your reassembly process so those of us that have never tackled one has a tutorial to work off of. :)

BTW, a Benora 2 speed instructional would be nice, too.
Yes. I'll post more as I go along.
Surprisingly, the Benora was much trickier than the Altex.
Lots of tiny parts and disassembly must be in certain order or tiny fragile parts become tiny broken parts, but when it was finished... so killer!
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Paul Roberts wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 4:45 am Wonderful project! I find reel work downright meditative. And making/modifying your own tools -all the better. Very 😎.
Agree. I love tearing into these mechanical works of art.
I have no training or really prior knowledge of reel repair, other than self taught learn as you go, but have always loved disassembling things since I was a kid. As a youth, reassembly didn't always happen, though. "where did this part go?" Lol
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First step is not being afraid to start.
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Been working on polishing up the brightwork on the Altex. There is a bunch!

After polishing, I am 100% sure my no.1 was leaded and not painted. The residual " color", I was seeing was decades worth of grime and oxidation.
I took some Nevr Dull magic polishing wadding and gave the body parts a good shine. This is a gauze type wadding impregnated with polishing compound. You cut pieces off according to job. Polish item vigorously with it until black residue forms and then wipe clean with cloth. I use a large piece of elk hide, as the suede makes a killer buff/ shine. Use the wadding until blackened, then cut new piece.
All this is done by hand. No Dremels, drills, buffers, etc. I like to feel and hold the items Im working on. When you take the time to appreciate these works of art down deep, you see things like original tooling marks and such, you may not see as a casual observer. Plus, I feel like I'm in Edward Broadfoot's shoes for a moment.
I will be moving onto the small parts next. Lots of brass and aluminum to shine!
I know purists may be against patina removal, but this reel was not working properly and was doing nothing and had bad oxidation.
I will be using this reel, so I want it to look and function at its best. I have many original finish reels, I use, and many I have redone. Point is, I'm using them for what they were designed.
Nothing against cabinet queens, but not for me. I display vintage reels at the butt end of a pole, not on a shelf. That's just my thing.

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Got all the small internal and external parts shined up.
I will hit them with compressed air before oiling or reassembly.












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Update on 1935 Hardy Altex no.1
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Working on getting flier and mechanical bail arm assembled.
Also included my micro screw hack for getting those tiny dudes in place.
Since this part is exposed to elements, I used grease on all metal/ metal pivot and fasten points, vs. oil.

She's looking awfully shiny!













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How’s she coming along?

And a question: The exposed ball bearings disc: What materia(ls) sandwiches it? What material was used in contact with the balls?
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Paul Roberts wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 3:00 am How’s she coming along?

And a question: The exposed ball bearings disc: What materia(ls) sandwiches it? What material was used in contact with the balls?
Two hard steel washers sandwich the bearing cage

See my assembly pictures of process.

Hope this helps.
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Got her all wrapped up and ready for some crappie action! Came out real nice. Basket case to beauty!!

























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Setting the mechanical bail arm trip gear, so it properly trips the bail during retrieval. If this gear is not "timed" correctly with the bail arm external drive gear, nothing works at all. Gears just snag up and reel is useless.
It took several tries removing trip gear and re positioning it to mesh it differently with the drive gear, in order to get the bail to close correctly and flier to continue to rotate.
I included a YouTube link to a video I made of the bail in action.

https://youtu.be/pX095LmCKjU?si=A2VhFhQMIf7mPFMC


Just for those who might be gun shy because of the notorious flier bearing assembly, fear not! It's really not that bad. Just micro. I used tiny tweezers to place bearings in ball cage washer. I also used minimal grease on the hard steel "sandwich" washers. This helped to keep the tiny bearings in place. Once the stack is assembled, the flier is inserted into body and infamous collet is snugged down.

That's why I love doing this. The mental challenges defeated!

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Good job. Cool little reel. Didn’t realize how small it is. A lot of work, but more than worthwhile. The screw sleuthing alone. Need extra compartments in ones parts tray!
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Paul Roberts wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 12:52 pm Good job. Cool little reel. Didn’t realize how small it is. A lot of work, but more than worthwhile. The screw sleuthing alone. Need extra compartments in ones parts tray!
Thanks, Paul!

Starting a resto on a spring bail no.1, now. After that, I'm going to take a spring bail no.2 and make it a mechanical bail, using a parts reel flier.
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