Perfect clone has me stumped!
- john elder
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Re: Perfect clone has me stumped!
No “D” stamp but money bet is dingley perfect. He didn’t mark a lot of his reels.
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Re: Perfect clone has me stumped!
I have no guess, but don't think Dingley is correct as the styling is unlike any Dingley Perfect-style reel I've seen.
Also, Dingley did not scratch Roman numerals into his reels, he used stamped Arabic numerals.
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Also, Dingley did not scratch Roman numerals into his reels, he used stamped Arabic numerals.
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Re: Perfect clone has me stumped!
What gets me is how closely it duplicates a 1905 check Perfect.
If it has no connection at all to Hardy, I'd be surprised if the maker wasn't sued by Hardy.
If it has no connection at all to Hardy, I'd be surprised if the maker wasn't sued by Hardy.
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One difference I see (other than styling) is four pins holding the collar the spindle is inserted in. Hardy used three.
What's the correct term for that collar ?
Dean.
What's the correct term for that collar ?
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I assumed that three was the Hardy standard as well, but have found examples where 4 were used.
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Re: Perfect clone has me stumped!
Dingley and Farlow both in that period were using collared thrust bearings, which look like Hoffmann clutch bearings - might check with Stefan or Andrew Race whether Smith & Wall built a perfect clone - I think they both have catalogs.
This is a marked OS Exchequer before 1925 with a D5 stamp.
On this reel the bushing is attached with screws,
which also shows up on a postwar Dingley perfect I had that used balls in a race for the thrust bearing.
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Heaton staked a lot of brass in their reels, which the subject reel has in many places where other makers would use machine screws. I don't know whether Heaton made a perfect, but Hardy's patent was expired before WWI -
Farlow patented their perfect design in 1911 - in many ways it looks like this reel, but Farlow's reel has a second (radial) bearing in the middle of the spool.
This is a marked OS Exchequer before 1925 with a D5 stamp.
On this reel the bushing is attached with screws,
which also shows up on a postwar Dingley perfect I had that used balls in a race for the thrust bearing.
Alex Martin Thistle
Heaton staked a lot of brass in their reels, which the subject reel has in many places where other makers would use machine screws. I don't know whether Heaton made a perfect, but Hardy's patent was expired before WWI -
Farlow patented their perfect design in 1911 - in many ways it looks like this reel, but Farlow's reel has a second (radial) bearing in the middle of the spool.