PENN SENATOR 16/0

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Saw this thread while looking into the Penn Senator 16/0 reel. And then saw the post about Big Lou, and found this on Google. Enjoy...

https://www.beaumontenterprise.com/news ... 593298.php

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I doubt if anyone will ever come close to that record. Finding a person with the skills to make a long cast like that combined with being able to do at those heights very well might be impossible. I wonder what reel he had on the rod?
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That article is not accurate in regards to being the only person or the longest. Tournament casters in the US and Internationally keep records. The current USA record distance cast is 1636 feet by Henry Mittel in 2011. You can find other casting distance and accuracy records on the ACA Website at http://www.americancastingassoc.org/---- ... -comb.html.

I have photos and casting equipment used by ORCA member BL Farley when he participated in unlimited casting and surf spin casting for distance. I believe he also beat this distance, but would have to look that up.

At the ORCA National (I believe in Texas) an ACA caster demonstrated long distance casting to the club. I was not there and have not seen photos, but if someone has a story there to post, it would be interesting.
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Matt, The caster was none other than Big Lou at that Texas National. He was out distancing the golfers on the same range. Lou will tell you he can not cast as far as he once did but he is still involved in distance casting. He used either a Abu 6500, 7500 or 10,000 but most often I believe it was the 6500. These reels were modified with the little tuning device to fine tune them while they were running. He will also tell you there were some young gun casters down in Australia that outdistanced everyone at one time but again those folks have aged a little since those years. There are actually some photos of Big Lou and his tackle right here on ORCA's website. They should be under National Convention from that year but I haven't looked for them in a while. That was still one of the best ORCA Nationals ever. Keepin' It Fun! Colby

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That is good info Colby. I did not realize that it was Big Lou at the Texas ORCA National. I was kind of reacting to the reporter that claimed it was a distance record, but it could have been close in 1991 I guess. In any case, we should dig up some photos of the equipment used for everyone to see. The rods and reels used for distance casting are specialized, and certainly a Penn 16/0 is not part of the equation any more. There were conventional reels used in early surf distance casting, but the long spool spinning and the unlimited modified spools took over the records.
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Lou pops in here once in a while so he might be able to add some info. I'll see if he's interested. When I heard the ORCA Nationals was going to be held near Houston where Lou lives, I thought it was a no brainer to have them do a demo. The 2005 National was supposed to also have the late Jerry Valentine, also a world-class caster and champion, as part of the demo but he had to cancel at the last minute. We had a grand time and it was nice to reminisce about Lou's visits to the Islands.
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I just re-read this post. Funny looking back at how little I knew 13 years ago. I now know that 16/0 is the largest reel to leave the Penn factory. Big Lou is now a Legend. I believe the feat of casting over the Houston Astrodome will never be matched.

In today's world a Penn Senator 20/0 exists but it is a combination of the original Penn Senator 16/0 and new Tiburon after market parts. Tiburon offered only 20 numbered Frames and Spools to create the Penn Senator 20/0 and has now has finally made the matching side plates out of aluminum, again, only 20 pieces. I am waiting for the side plates to arrive, so I can complete the transformation of my Penn Senator 20/0, as for now, here is the 20/0 in its present form.


The reel sharing space with the Tiburon Senator 20/0 is a 1939 Squidder 140


The size difference is sort of dramatic.


Soon this reel will have custom Black anodized side plates. Its Penn identity will be reduced to mostly internal parts.


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Re: PENN SENATOR 16/0

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Massive. If you could choose a rod for it, what would it be?

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Massive. If you could choose a rod for it, what would it be?
I have an old custom 130 pound class Big Game rod made in Montauk Point. Shakespeare Blank, Mildrum Guides, Lakewood seat and an Aftco butt. It is nice. I will keep both the rod and the reel, unfortunately I do not have space to display them assembled, so the reel will be a shelfie and the rod sits in it place in the rack. If I could choose a rod for it, I would probably opt for the Fenwick, Model 670. That is the Jaws rod.




The rod I described is on the far left.
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That looks right. Many times a reel can overwhelm a rod..in their appearance together. That rod looks like it can put up with what your reel can do. Something tells me you're thinking about a cradle....

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Re: PENN SENATOR 16/0

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Something tells me you're thinking about a cradle....
I have a couple of smaller cradle rigs that I still fish with from time to time. I have liked them for years and when you take care of them properly, they are bullet proof.

You see my active cradle rigs in my rack. The rod tips for the two cradle handles are in the rack. They are both Jigmaster 500 combos.
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