Meek 33 Back Plate Removal Tricks

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Meek 33 Back Plate Removal Tricks

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I have a Meek 33 that I was looking to clean up, but the back plate is STUCK. Tried my usual tricks (Liquid Wrench, percussion with various tools, rubber gripper, etc.) and this one won't budge. If anyone has any extreme case tricks that I can try, list them here! Thanks and Merry Christmas to the ORCA family!
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Bill,
Try a little heat/cold with a hair dryer and then an ice cube bag. Maybe the expand/contract will pop it loose. It sure won't damage anything.
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Bill, just checked my bluegrass by meek #33 and was surprised to learn (re-learn) that it twists off lefty-loosey, rather than righty-loosey (as arrow indicates) for your favorite Horton#33! So, maybe you have been going the wrong way out of habit? Otherwise, Tommy’s suggestion would be the way I would go, but would use a bigger gun...ie, heat gun, to supply heat. Hope the simpler method going counter-clockwise works!
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Bill, just checked my bluegrass by meek #33 and was surprised to learn (re-learn) that it twists off lefty-loosey, rather than righty-loosey (as arrow indicates) for your favorite Horton#33! So, maybe you have been going the wrong way out of habit? Otherwise, Tommy’s suggestion would be the way I would go, but would use a bigger gun...ie, heat gun, to supply heat. Hope the simpler method going counter-clockwise works!
Glad you mentioned that John, I was giving it the Horton twist. Still stuck, so into the freezer it went, we'll see what happens when I blast it with some heat. Thanks boys!
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I've had luck with leaving them in the freezer over night
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I've had luck with leaving them in the freezer over night
The cold / heat trick has not worked. Looks like a longer stay in the freezer is the next option.
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Bill: Instead of the rubber gripper, did you try gripping the edge with a terrycloth towel? Don Champion suggested that some time ago and it worked for me (on a different Carter style reel). A slightly damp towel may help grip the edge and avoids all damage to the knurling on the edge. Rubber seems to roll, compress and tear. I ended up using a well used microfibre cloth to grip. The backplate of my Blue Grass, Carter style, Meek 33 twists off counter-clockwise. Nothing holding it inside except old grease. I did turn the clicker switch to the off position but it should come off either way. The construction of the reel is very precise IMHO and the fittings are tight. I recall I did have to exert a lot of hand twisting pressure to open a similarly styled trade reel by Union Hardware. You gave me an idea to make a short video clip to demo the method and make a Facebook post.

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Thank Paul, and great video! I will give it a try. The reel has been in the freezer for a few days now, I forgot I put it in there.
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Advise that worked on a Meek 33 for me years ago.

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Cyrus,

I had one that did the same thing. After I had boogered up the knarling on the rim I took a chisel and placed it flat along the spool housing and gave it a whack. It popped the side plate back onto the threads and unscrewed easily. You might as well try it because the reel won't be much good the way it is.

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Well I'll be damn, worked like a charm. I had turned that back plate more then one full turn in both directions with out it beginning to unscrew. I put the tube in a leather padded vise and used a piece of soft wood to tap the lip of the back plate at four quadrant's away from the tube. I reversed the reel in the padded vise and tapped the tube at the foot support with the soft wood about quarter turn and it began to unscrew very easily, works perfectly now.

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I have had that issue as well, where the back plate was mis-threaded and the only way to get it right was to rap it back on track, using a rubber or plastic hammer and some protection against scratching.

I learned something useful on Gold Rush last night, in addition to learning not to be a gold miner. They were putting a bearing on a hub and it was too tight, so they took a torch and heated the bearing up, then slid it onto to the hub fairly easily. I have been in the process of trying to get a threaded brake drum off of a Stevens reel spool for about a week, soaking in penetrating oil and mineral spirits, heating and cooling, then rapping as much as I dared....it just would not budge. After watching the show, I decided that the fatal flaw in my approach might be letting the drum cool before trying to remove it. So, I heated it up with a heat gun and when it was hot enough I wasn't going to touch it, I started tapping and it came right off. I'm sure that if I had let it cool first, it wouldn't have moved!
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John, same idea came up on a YouTube video I was watching a few days ago - they were making old fashioned horse carriage wheels - 5-6 feet in diameter. The last step is to put a 1/4" thick metal band around the outside of the wooden wheel structure - this was pre-rubber - and the metal band was a "tire" - kept the wood from wearing. They heated it in a bonfire, which expanded it enough to put over the wooden wheel - and when it cooled and contracted it was on for good.
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Looking up the coefficient of expansion for various materials can sometimes provide a clue to the best way to proceed when something is stuck. Also, playing with heat sinks to get one component hotter than another.

With that said, my Horton Simplex tail plate is still stuck. The tail plate itself says it best,
>>----->
screw off


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oc1 wrote:Looking up the coefficient of expansion for various materials can sometimes provide a clue to the best way to proceed when something is stuck. Also, playing with heat sinks to get one component hotter than another.

With that said, my Horton Simplex tail plate is still stuck. The tail plate itself says it best,
>>----->
screw off


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Meeks lack that hint...ie, ——->
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