did every US state make reels???

[Bill Muth]

Nebraska had one more: Air-Lite Plastics Corp. in Omaha made a horrible little plastic spin-cast reel, circa 1970s (I think). The previously identified Nebraska maker, Good-All Mfg. Co., was located in Ogallala, NE.

[Steve]

R. P. Mfg. Co., Inc., Miamisburg, Ohio

[SWIM JIG]

Ok folks this reel is called (YOYO) automatic Fishing reel , mafg. by Mechanical Fisher Co. P.O. Box 1170 Diamond City Ar.72630 comes with line, a way to hang it from a tree, is spring loaded (spring looks like one out of a automatic Fly reel you set it the fish trips it Mine only caught a very angry sea gull, and yes they do work! In the Clinch river in Claiborn Co. TENN the locals use them for (CAT FISH) they have a 60lb test line . Colectable? I added one to my acumulation of strange items Col. M. Lorens aka SWIM JIG in a cold OHIO

[SWIM JIG]

Steve, as Miamisburg Ohio is a well known Collage town, also a few old time gunsmiths resided there, can you describe the reel or reels or posibly a pic of it? ie bait caster,? etc? I am attempting to asemble reels made in Ohio, Thanks Col. M. Lorens aka SWIM JIG your cold resident of NORTH OHIO

[Steve]

Milt,
Here's a pic of a Kerr cradle baitcaster with the R. P. Mfg. name in the oval stamping. I've seen other Kerrs without the mark, so it may have been produced in more than one factory. Since the oil caps are Shakespearian, I'd guess the thing was made by adding Shakespeare-made parts to a cradle made by R. P.



The doodad is based on Robert Kerr's patent. He was from Dayton.

[SWIM JIG]

Steve , this is what its about! I never owned one of these, I will if one comes around! Now for some other reels etc (Dunks Rod&REEL by THE AMERICAN Display co. dayton Ohio around 1930, looks like a winnoa reel. this is another like type, (Pekin casting reel, by the Specialty mfg. co. Pekin ILL. around 1930 ( DAN BASSORE you looking? Now the next one seems as if they had the anti backlash bar long before South Bend ,Jim Maden you get on this one, the reel is caled( ANTI BACKLASH ) on the handle side plate, the Standard Bros Ltd at 155 Woodbridge St. WEST , Detroit MICH. sold them the time frame is 1908, or did south bend by the devise from them? People lets keep adding reels and by whom or where made, We may just make our own Factual book of reels. Col. M. Lorens in 15degree Ohio aka SWIM JIG

[Harvey]

Hey Milt. Does it look like this? These were made in Ark.
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I think calling this a "Fishing Reel" is streching it somewhat!

[Jim Schottenham]

Col Milt,
here's a Pekin (on the left) and another Ohio reel I almost forgot about, the Snyder reel, from Dayton Ohio on the right.

Jim

[SWIM JIG]

Harvy mine are still in the pkg. yes yours look like it, and they make good reels for lazy people like me, heck the fish hooks itself, gets pulled up and now I even have them scaled , I put the outfit over a small rock area and as the fish are pulled up they are scaled, now I need to devise a way to cook them! Life is GOOD! Harvy attach one of these to your toe, take a nap the fish will wake you up, NOW GO FISH! Col. Milton Lorens aka SWIM JIG in a OHIO TUNDRA temp on the up rise its now 18 degrees!

[cws/carl schultz]

thats what you do pull the string tie to a tree empty bottle whatever works real good on catfish i have a whole box that i bought for ice fishing but of intrest is paperwork talks about survival kits and using it as a snare amoung other uses is it a reel?

[Jim Madden]

Milt, check out page 19 of my book about the Standart Brothers reel of Detroit. I didn't list it because it was made by Montague. We're only listing manufactureres, correct? Do we include companies that only sold trade reels (like Pennell)? I guess that should be clarified. Jim

[Reel Geezer]

I sat down and updated my list before lunch, then took and nap and then fired up the computer to post the list. Hmmmm... It's already outdated. Anyway, the list on the Fishing Reel Research site has been updated as per Steve's post at the top of this page. I noted the following: Washington = 17 makers, Michigan = 20, NY = 40. There are 21 states not represented yet. One of them just happens to be KENTUCKY.

[SWIM JIG]

LOOKS like the guy took a slack line on the deal also in Lens book page 2 he shows the reel etc. Jim, I woild say list all reels and or their other names with a marking made by PENNELL etc, that will defuse the (INDIAN REEL PROBLEM) also if a larege trade reel co had plants ie assembly shops or manf. capabilities in other States. ( a example I am now working on a(X-pert modle 1 N.B.L. no 3121700) this reel is a combonation Of Bronson amd Langly , the leval wind worm is bronso it will also work in a JACOXE reel the pawl is 2 ended like bronson, the rear bering cap - adj is Langly. screws are bronson Shakespere, the spool gear is bronson so is the bridge. When we work on reels that use several different companies parts 1 its well known the big fish sells to the small fish that sells to us ( jokingly SUCKERS) Oh yes forgot to mention the handle nut is Shakespere. Jim thats why I see it as important to do this listing, few if any reel companies after 1908 only made for themselfs, now this is going to bring down a lot of words from the rest of the folks-- Bring it ON ! Col. Milton Lorens aka SWIM JIG in very cold OHIO

[Harvey]

I think that Steve qualifies for the Kentucky listings
since he retired from the royalties generated by the
book on said subject that he co-wrote and I am
waiting for a reply from Bill Stuart on the unknown
Florida reels. (if there are any.)
And To Phil: I don’t know where this hobby would
be if it wasn’t for your willing participation. I was on
the phone last night with a fellow reel collector and
this thread came up in the conversation. We both
talked about your Web Sites with all the projects
and what benefits for a collector could be found there
by both seasoned (geezers) and new collectors alike.
I am sure that it doesn’t go unnoticed by others but
the time and effort you put into this is way past the
responsibilities one should have to endure as just being
a member.
And Steve didn't get off the hook either. (bet your ears
were burning!) Yes, we discussed you too!
With his knowledge and willingness to help,
it almost makes it
impossible to not get an answer to your questions form
either one or both of you. I will admit that Steve takes
the advantage somewhat because he usually produces
a picture! To both of you, and the other very knowledgeable
people that post here, I think I speak for all of us other
peons, Thanks for making this a very enjoyable place to
visit and learn.
Harvey

[Steve]

Likewise, we're sure, Harvey. No one is more info-generous than you are. But we digress...

[Harvey]

This is what I been waiting for. Florida reels from Bill Stuart:
I copied and pasted the whole thing so sort out what you want, AND, THANKS TO BILL!
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Harvey,

When you mention Florida reels I think of hand reels, thumb reels, kite reels, trade reels, electric reels, big game reels, spinning reels, casting reels and the like. Harvey this is probably not all, but it is all that I could think of.

Here is what little I know:

Star Drag Fishing Reel 1907 Blackburn p#847,890

Thumb Reels c. 1920s, Watson, Ouzts, etc.

Kite Reels Bob Lewis

Hand Reels (wood & plastic) Boone, etc.

Trade Reels (bait casters) Eger by Kalamazoo,
Barracuda by ? (probably Bronson or Langly)

Electric Reels Norma Elect. Reel by Fin - Nor, Miami
Kipnis Elect. Powered reel 1962, Jacksonville
Reel Power Elect. Reels, Bradenton 1971
Dolphin Elect. Reel, Inc., Bradenton (may have been a successor company to Reel Power Elect. Reels.)

C. S. Carter "World's smallest reel, " Miami

John Emery Reels Miami

SpinMaster (Dist. By Southern Tackle) Hialeah

Oliver Reels Daytona Beach

Trade Reels (spinning reels) Ted Williams made by Zangi 1954
Pescador made by Zangi, etc.

Fin - Nor Big Game Reels made by Tycoon/Fin - Nor, Miami Golden Regal Trolling Reels made by Tycoon/Fin - Nor
Otto Zwarg St. Pete

Lee Miami

Stevens Miami


Other reel makers and patent dates and numbers

G. O. Brosnaham, Jr. Pensacola, FL Dec. 6, 1898 Patent # 615,526
E. F. Wells Miami, FL Oct. 20, 1914 Patent # 1,114,084
F. V. Phillips Orlando, FL May 25, 1915 Patent # 1,140,608
G. S. Yingling St. Augustine June 20, 1916 Patent # 1,188,230
E. L. Knowles Miami, FL Nov. 26, 1935 Patent # 2,022,042
F. M. Grieten Miami, FL Oct. 19, 1937 Patent # 2,096,299
F. M. Grieten Miami, FL March 15, 1938 Patent # 2,111,447
F. M. Grieten Miami, FL April 11, 1939 Patent # 2,153,923
W. F. Watson Bradenton, FL May 16, 1939 Patent # 2,158,597
W. F. Watson Bradenton, FL March 26, 1940 Patent # 2,194,578
F. M. Grieten Miami, FL Nov. 5, 1940 Patent # 2,220,519
F. M. Grieten Miami, FL Sept. 9, 1941 Patent # 2,255,703
W. F. Watson Bradenton, FL April 27, 1943 Patent # 2,317,835
L. S. Elsinger Tampa, FL Sept. 28, 1948 Patent # Des. 151,120
H. F. Maynes* unknown June 20, 1950 Patent # 2,512,357
H. F. Maynes unknown Sept. 19, 1950 Patent # 2,523,133
H. F. Maynes unknown Sept. 19, 1950 Patent # 2,523,134
C. D. McLeod St. Petersburg, FL June 19, 1951 Patent # 2,557,230
E. L. Olsen Penny Farms, FL July 22, 1952 Patent # 2,604,272
J. W. Miller Port Orange, FL June 9, 1953 Patent # 2,641,418

" It is interesting to note that the Hyla Maynes patent applications were issued to his executrix Emma after his death. We would assume, which is always dangerous, Emma to be his wife.

Best wishes in your story, Bill

[clinton_beeler]

Do we have Maine? (reminds me of that licence plate game) Van Staal.

If you go to their web site they have a breakdown on how the annual service is done. Note the use of "Simple Green" cleaner for the plastic parts and brake cleaner for the metal parts.

Milt, I'm afraid I don't have a diagram or instructions on the Lashmaster but R.D. may have applied for a patent (Steve might know). The reel was to have been called the "Kingcaster". R.D. objected because that name wasn't descriptive enough. There were problems with the gears. They took it to a trade show and saw a similar device that worked better and was already patented. The company consisted of R.D. Hull, Willie Crawford, and five investors each of whom contributed $7500.

I now realize that the Zero Hour Bomb Co. came into being because of a man named Jasper who didn't go by Jasper and was saved by another man named Jasper who didn't go by Jasper. The former being Jasper (J.a.p) Morrison and the latter being Jasper R. Dell (R.D.) Hull. What a coincidence!

Regards,
Clinton

[SWIM JIG]

Clinton, did they ever make a KING CASTEReven as a proto type? It will be a wonderful book that you will write, all this imformation that you and your dad have , and to think we humble ORCAns are learning this from a real live person and persons, we can only relize that the true story will be in print, I want to be one of the first 10 folks to buy a signed copy of your book! please include a PHOTO of GW BUSH senior at the ZEBCO Factory in your book! Things that intrest us ORCA ns are , How many different reels were designed, and put into production, how many were just expermental, or found not to work or for some reason never made their way to the public, a Pic of the original Coffee can reel, whee! what this can do to our collector folks not only ORCAns however all folks that collect or fish with reels! Clinto I only hope that you relize what you will contribute to the world of collectors! May your pen be guided well as you write! Col. Milton Lorens aka SWIM JIG your OHIO conection

[Bill Muth]

Phil drops a huge hint, and no one responds. Kentucky: B.F. Meek, B.C. Milam, Gayle, Blue Grass Reel Works, Bourne & Bond, Fullilove, Snyder, etc.

[SWIM JIG]

WELL bill you were called! and there are a lot more reels from the Comnwealth Of KY, remeber the pre and post Civi WAR items done in clock maker and watch maker schools? keep bringing on these names Hint one was aseembled In Middlesboro KY along with a single barrel Shotgun for a very well known Hardware Company! I alls aint gona tell! it was pre world war 2 Your frozen Ohio conection, my kind of ICE fishing is this big upright frezzer! Col. M. lorens aka SWIM JIG

[SWIM JIG]

OK around 1904-05 ( A NEW REEL) full ball bearings and made by the AMERICA CO. in Rockford ILL. also they Made the (SOUND FINACE) these had a CUSHION bearing in themhowever this was made in Momencic ILL. Ok yeh I know Hendrix of New Haven Conn. made a lot of reels, However did you know they also made real nice BIRD CAGES? in 1896? and on we go Carl , do you have a reel called (THE MICIGAN REEL) made in Flint MICH. 1895-1898.Or THE KRAFT TENSION REEL from Battle CREEK MICH. Then there is the (ATWOOD REEL that hails from Farmington Falls Maine)and of corse the Gillette Pocket Fisherman in 1911 2 sizes the No.1 in 60 yard for $1.50 and the No. 2 150 yards for $3.00 No rod is needed. 9 East 32st NEW YORK. Ok start adding more reels there are a lot out there and we need to list them. Col. Milton lorens aka SWIM JIG and I want to thank all of you that have listed reels so other members a guest may see what we are about ORCA REELS your warming up OHIO conection ICE OUT 16 days!

[clinton_beeler]

OK, so whats the score? How many states do we have and which states do we need?

Regards,
Clinton

[Steve]

Geezer et al.,
Jim Brown published a list of New York reelmakers three times in ORCA bulletins, updating it over the years. The latest version I'm aware of was on page 8 of the New Year, 2000, issue of Reel News. Looks like at least 75 entries.

[SWIM JIG]

steve, anyone signing up after 2000 would mis that! It would be my thoughts 1 to relist or update some things in each issue! 2 when a new member is sent their first (REEL NEWS) send a list of back issues with it, thus if we list a item then the new member can order a copy of a back issue, yes its work however as we are the teachers the students must have the tools to learn! I relize we dont have a large budget, so we make do what we can. Once we do this then new members in my simple thoughts will renew! not drop out! and then they will in turn tell their friends and sign up new members! And then things happen, we may get new column writers? I would like to see a book by ORCA with just reel facts and pics or drawings with a history , it could be sold for a resonable cost, We must go foward ! JUST thinking out loud again! Col. M. Lorens in frozen OHIO 22 degrees , aka SWIM JIG

[Jim Schottenham]

ORCA member Tom DuRose, who wrote an excellent article in the July 2002 issue of the Reel News, reminded me to add the Keene Valley Engineering company of New York to our growing list.
Tom is having trouble posting here, perhaps an AOL issue.
Jim