Cleaning old reels

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Cleaning old reels

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At the NFLCC show in Allentown last week, some of us had several more of the annual discussions on the topic of cleaning reels. As usual, some folks were of the persuasion best expressed by:
"Nothin' could be meana
Than to clean off a patina..."

To which I respond:
"Nothin' could be cleana
Than removin' a patina..."

(The anonymous poet who penned this doggerel should be bard from further postings.)

Let me offer this unpolished prose in defense of my opinion:

I've always felt that most of the "patina" on tools like fishing reels usually consists mostly of dirt and grease, rather than an oxidation product of the metal. Therefore, I prefer cleaning the reels and letting a new patina "grow" from scratch.

The two reels shown below are very similar British single-action click reels probably well over 150 years old. The reel on the left is shown just after it was cleaned, but not polished, by sonication in grease-dissolving solvents. The reel on the right looked just as bright and shiny after it was cleaned several years ago. However, it has developed a nice, even, "natural" patina by sitting on a display shelf since then. A deep patina is not necessarily indicative of great age.

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Steve: I agree. I like to see them as clean and shiny as I can get them. I have observed that with any good german silver or nickel silver reel that I have cleaned that after a year or so, the "patina" is back...certainly doesn't look like anyone took an sos pad to it. that's why our mom's had to polish the silverware every year...and why most were thrilled when everything came available in stainless steel (yes, I know the above are not "silver", but oxidation of metal occurs, nonetheless). I don't think any of my reels would be considered overpolished by most, after having set on the shelf for a bit.
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I also agree. A "patina" acquired from years of neglect or sitting in someone's garage is nothing to be proud of. I like to make 'em look new.
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If you guys like your reels to look NEW, I hope someone does a rub and polish job on you whan you get old. What is wrong with lookin' old? Just look in the mirror. Leave them alone. I guess you never heard the story told by Jim Frasier about Al Foss's tackle box!
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:? 8) :roll: :!: :?: :idea: :arrow: :type: Ok so hang me out to RUST! Clean? yes, bring back to original condition(if its posible) yes, to modify or beyond original condition for dollar inhancment? to decive a buyer? NO NO NO ! To start off all metal is not solid it will (pass oil air or other like substances thru it or absorb them. Our air s much more poluted in this day and age than even 60 years ago, Post atomic erea took care of that. To clean ie. remove surface dirt grime oxidation or other subs. not a part of the metal ot hard rubber or materials used on reels is (in My opion) perfectly proper! Most of use shine our cars or boats etc, wife shine the furniture and waxes the floors? Why not the reels rods lures etc? If you clean the brass reels somewhat back to when they were made fine then to geep the elements of dirty air from dulling them, we use Caruba Wax, or any wax that contains Caruba in it ( The Old Cadilac Blue Coral ) was the best, We use METAL GLOW POLISH its like semichrome, to get the impurities off the surface of metals or lures etc. WORKS ON GUNS ! If its just grease and grime we use the mineral spirts to get rid of that nasty stuf, if we didnt our (clean , lube and repair business would be a falsehood) As for pits, use cleaner and a tooth brush its a lot of work its worth it! Sulpher is our worst enemy on metal if you scramble a egg the sulpher is in the air cabbage and corn beaf? same thing, and for you tobaco users well its the worst, the tars and cartagens ruin metal and you lungs, burn wood in the fireplace? this list goes on, ato or truck fumes keak into the home and the worst polutors are airplane yup good old comecial planes they bomb you with fall outs. Humid weater and salt air thake their toll, ( Harvy you reading this?) water vapors pick up JUNK and humid air lands on you reels, ALL METAL IS Pourus, do this test ( soak a brass gear in say marvel oil or other spray oils let it set for a day them take compresed air and the blow gun wand put this to the part and forsce air into it then watch the tiny bubles come out! ( note on comercail reel gears we soak them 24 hrs in marvel oil and then a light coating of grease on the teeth, these charter reels noe hold their grear teeth up to 5years with out a replacement! The Charter captains are very happy. As to your reels rods etc clean and protect them like your finest shot gun or rifle, You will then no you done your best to preserve your part of history! Salt water? well that white powder that forms? dontuse it on your steaks, it will most liky be very bitter! Now go clean and wax a REEL it will make you feel better ! Col. milton Lorens aka SWIM JIG Your Ohio Conection a DECIDING ELECTION STATE
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Harvey, the point is that the cleaned reels will look old again after a couple of years, but you will have removed the spider eggs, fossilized worm guts, mold, and insect droppings from the reels before you bring them into the living room.

By the way, looking more than 35 years old is no longer acceptable in polite society. Just check out some of those "reality" shows on TV.
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I agree with the removeing all the unwanted dirt, guts, eggs and other items that might bring on a case of the plague but I am not a student of the polishing class. My pet peeve is to see a brass reel so shiney that you could send a morris code message from one mountain top to the other. And you are right about the statement that 35 years old is no longer acceptable to some. I like my women seasoned, not old!
As for "reality" shows, The first one wasn't bad but now it seems that it is a show as skin in some cases. (And I consider myself as a good judge of "Skin!)
Crusty Ol' Harve.
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I like Milton Lorens descritpion which he ran in an earlier Reel News. He called it CRUD! Yes, I also clean my reels, and on occasion polish them if it improves the value. Better polished than look like something for the old reel toss. Heck, I even clean the dirt out of the screw slots. Don't forget casting reels were used for bait casting. Lots of worm & minnow slime, fish scales, blood, dirt and so forth. If you don't clean your reels make certain you wash your hands after handling them and before eating!
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best way i know is swap with len his reels are a work of art [plus he cant stand to see a dirty reel will start vibrating and smoke come out of his ears]
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I recently picked up a bimetal fly reel, alloy frame and spool with brass face plate and foot. The brass has a beautiful dark green (malachite) patina that could never be duplicated and would be a crime to remove.
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R Mc--Congrats on your acquisistion, neat reel wonderful
combination of color, mine`s a Leonard, yours? You going to
Texas next spring ?
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Post by Ron Mc »

wow. Not a Leonard, a merchant hercules copy c. 1920.

I want to show up for a couple of days, but vacations are always tight around my office, and usually not "approved" until the last minute.
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