Need some help on ID

[Reelman]

I bought this reel from Dr Herr a number of years ago. It has the Abbey & Imbrie crossed hooks Tm. I was wondering if any body could ID who made it. And what are the two post above the pinion gear for
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Merv

[Jim Madden]

Hey, Merv. Nice reel! Hope things are well with you. I can't identify the reel any better for you, but I believe the posts are just support spacers so that the handle movement doesn't fatigue that area and cause slop, (like that's ever going to happen in such a well-built reel.) Thanks for the picture. Jim

[Steve]

Merv, I wouldn't bet the farm on it, but I think it's a Terry.

Have never seen posts like that before. I wonder if they might have kept the headcap from collapsing if A&I stamped the reel in-house and without removing it from the reel. But I also like Jim's anti-slop theory. It would be nice to hear other suggestions.

[Reelman]

I checked the post they lack a 1/8 of a inch of touching the inside of the face
plate

Merv
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[Steve]

Storing spare pinions?
Plugging holes after someone decided not to attach a brake spring?
Anchoring the plate in a jig while you drilled holes through it?

[Guest]

These posts were there for a purpose, and either the Headplate was replaced, or the intenal part was from a different reel. There is no brake or clicker on the tailplate, so I would expect some type of drag or clicker hardware. There should be a Rim or sideplate opening for a lever or button. Someone must have a reel of similar design to help clarify.

[Steve]

Guest is absolutely right. Here are some similar reels, all of which I think may be Terrys. The red arrows in the pictures indicate threaded holes for the headcap screws. Some of the other visible holes in the headplates are threaded, some are not.

Reel 1 is a tiny thing with a half-crank. There is no brake spring for the pivoting lever to operate, but it may have been attached at the 10:00 o'clock screw hole, with a pin that went through the large hole at 3:00 o'clock. The important thing is that the lever is attached to a post.




Reel 2 has a brake spring attached using a hole near the edge, while the brake pin goes through another hole above the pinion. The push/pull operating lever has a notch that engages the notch just at the left end of the spring to keep the lever and spring latched together. The lever enters the space through a round hole, not an open slot, on the edge of the headcap, so you can't remove the headcap without sticking a screwdriver in there to separate the lever and spring notches. Superb engineering!





Reel 3 has a rotating click, which is attached only to the inside of the headcap, not the headplate. Nevertheless, the headplate has a couple of extra holes in it.



Many reels of this vintage (roughly 1875-1885, as judged by the A&I logo on Merv's reel) had extra holes in headplates, possibly to facilitate adding brakes and clicks as requested by buyers. It's conceivable that the posts in Merv's reel were added simply to plug unused holes. It's also conceivable that some apprentice couldn't decide where to put a post for a pivoting lever. Who knows?[/code]

[john elder]

Steve: I think I follow all this...but since there appears to be no "exit wound" in the reel in question, these must have been engineered options that were never employed, rather than indication of parts missing..you buy that? Maybe there is an outside hole somewhere for a lever, but I can't see it.

[Reelman]

There is no hole or slot on the reel. The post are not round they are ovals almost a rectangle in shape.

Merv
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[Warren Platt]

Whew! You guys have my head spinning. Sure glad I collect wonderful, beautiful, but simple Talbot reels. Most are simple anyway.