Stefan, smart guys - Hardy Perfect?

Ron Mc · Post by **Ron Mc** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:06 am

broken ... 7144201883

I put it on this board instead of the Ebay page, hoping to get your attention.

I was wondering about this one. Marked "Perfect Reel"? To me, this winding plate reel is a brass Hercules style reel. Did Hardy mark them this way?

Thanks,
Ron Mc

reels4me · Post by **reels4me** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:48 am

Ron--I have one same size (2 1/2" Diam.)GS retaining screw is on Perf. side
also has 4 cusps on perf. side and strap over drag. adjustment, smooth
brass ft., spool opening width is 1 1/8" bought at Grand Rapids ORCA
Nat`l. 3 years ago this June, a little sweatheart of a fly reel.

Ron Mc · Post by **Ron Mc** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:11 am

is it a winding plate hercules reel or is the spool exposed on on the back side?

reels4me · Post by **reels4me** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:53 pm

Exposed

Ron Mc · Post by **Ron Mc** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:11 pm

bingo. Your reel IS a perfect (sounds very nice, BTW) - but this reel is a Hercules reel, MARKED Perfect - and that is my question.

(The seller also has another Hercules reel marked with every Hardy trademark, which is also curious.)

Stefan Duma · Post by **Stefan Duma** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:06 pm

Hi Ron, yes they are out and out forgeries. I will speak to Richard Sanderson MD of Hardy's in the morning and hopefully they can stop them. Hardy own the trade marks so there should not be a problem stopping the auction.

Stefan

reels4me · Post by **reels4me** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:55 pm

Stephan--Now that`s what I call action. Good! Kick `em in the arss, and
thanks to you Ron for calling it to the attention of all concerned.

Ron Mc · Post by **Ron Mc** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:40 am

thanks Stefan, you're the man

I know this has nothing to do with the thread, but we're due for some gratuitous reel photos:

Stefan Duma · Post by **Stefan Duma** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:34 am

Spoke to the marketing director this morning and they will be contacting ebay and the seller about the reels. The seller is now saying that they might be fakes.

Stefan

Ron Mc · Post by **Ron Mc** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:47 am

uh oh, here's another
http://orcaonline.org/images/pixel.gif?7144558268
The frame and thumbscrew look like J. W. Young to me.

Stefan Duma · Post by **Stefan Duma** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:30 pm

Hi Ron this is a Hardy reel that was sold as either a "trade" reel or the Monogram. I have seen one, many years ago, stamped "Gow". I do have somewhere a picture of a Monogram which was a special for New Zealand. Need a picture of the check mechanism to be sure. I will try and find one over the next few days.

Stefan

Ron Mc · Post by **Ron Mc** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:41 pm

thank you, sir.

I stand corrected. Here's my little Heaton, 2-1/2":

Stefan Duma · Post by **Stefan Duma** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:35 am

I feel a tirade coming on. I would have thought that the auction would have been pulled by now but as it is now Good Friday, a public holiday, followed by Easter Monday, another public holiday the chances of anything happening are slim.
The auction will have ended and the two reels passed into public ownership. What the seller should do is end the auction and return them to the auction house who sold them, in turn they can return them to the seller.
Alas $$$ are showing and I doubt it, including eBay and despite all the sugar coated mush that they put out regarding "our community" all they are interested in money.
By the way the logos are engraved on not stamped, managed to get the seller to send some more pictures and he and his reels plus Hardy's actions and ebay will feature in the next issue of Antique Tackle Observer.

Stefan

Stefan, smart guys - Hardy Perfect?

Stefan, smart guys - Hardy Perfect?

Hardy "Perfect"

Perfect

Fraud, nipped in the butt.