I'm in the process of replacing a click pawl on a really nice Bradford & Anthony reel. The good news is that I've succeeded in replacing the clicker and have a really nice click. The bad news is that I've also created an excellent anti-reverse at the same time, which we really don't want on this single action reel. With the reel opened up, the pawl works well in both directions and looks pretty symmetrical, but when engaged with the spool, it just wants to turn in the retrieve direction for right hand wind.
I suppose it may just be a tad long, but if that were the case, it should err the same if started in either direction and it always errs in the same direction. With cheaper reels, I've had luck playing around with tweaking the spring, but I'm loathe to do much tweaking on such an old spring on such a nice reel that's such a not mine! Do any of you have thoughts on best way to approach this to figure which yin to yang?
John:
In the last picture, I see that the spring tip on one side is not lined up exactly with the other side. It is half a spring width different. One side probably slips towards the pivot point more easily. While the old tongue did not have a pronounced waist, it did have a sharp thickness contour change between the tip and the pivot hole and I don't know if that same depth profile is on the replacement tongue. Maybe that vertical contour somehow guided the spring tips to be symetrical on either side of the tongue.
I've had this problem myself and was able to fix it by shortening the pawl. Made no sense to me, but I was out of options and had spare pawls, so I gave it a shot.
Not saying that's what you should do ...but it worked in my instance.
Thanks, both of you! Paul, i will play with aligning the spring and see what that does first. I guess i never figured that as the culprit because in the absense of the spool, the pawl seems to swing freely in both directions. But thats a good suggestion.
Dean, thinking the same thing, but i can't put it back on, so moving slow on the shortening idea. I had to add solder to the top of the post in order to be able to peen and affix the pawl, so would dearly love to get it working without need of removing that pawl again!
Re the spring, has anyone noticed a need to keep that spring flat (or close) to the side plate, as long as it doesn't slip off the pawl? The springs tend to get a bit away from the side plate over time, but i think they left the factory almost flat against it.
John,
I know that photo angles can be deceiving but along with the spring not being inline on both sides of the pawl, as Paul noticed, it also looks as though the arc of the right side might be such that instead of the wire wedging/slipping up a little the pawl is trying to push it straight sideways, thus not allowing it to bypass the notch.
Tommy, this pawl does not slide, so is not suppose to have a "notch", but perhaps one side is not as smooth/straight as the other, allowing the spring to "catch"...yet another good thing for me to look at this evening...thanks!
john elder wrote:Tommy, this pawl does not slide, so is not suppose to have a "notch", but perhaps one side is not as smooth/straight as the other, allowing the spring to "catch"...yet another good thing for me to look at this evening...thanks!
Bad wording on my part, I guess. What I meant was swing or pivot and "notch" meaning between gears and not allowing it "to ride over the teeth", i.e getting pinched/wedged between them, against the tooth on that side, when the pawl tries to swing right. The spring appears to be contacting the pawl at nearly a right angle on the right side of the pawl. As Dean said though, if the tip is too long that could force a bind, also.
And the winner of the Save the Dinkus is....DEAN SMITH! Pawl was about 3 mm too long....got brave and cut it down and now we have click without anti-reverse! Thanks to Dean and thanks to all for the input!
john elder wrote:And the winner of the Save the Dinkus is....DEAN SMITH! Pawl was about 3 mm too long....got brave and cut it down and now we have click without anti-reverse! Thanks to Dean and thanks to all for the input!
