Double-stamping error... + or - ?

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Double-stamping error... + or - ?

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There is a reel being offered on eBay with an apparent stamp over stamp size number. In coin collecting this error would increase the value. How about in reel collecting? (The reel has the wrong handle, so it will be difficult to compare the final price with another Milam auction price). Thoughts?

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Not that we know of. We have several reels that have misstamps, over-stamps, and even a Sage that is stamped upside down. In fact, we did a table clinic at the Harpers Ferry National on Stamping Errors. But we don’t know of an error that brought more money.
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bettybarr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:41 pm Not that we know of. We have several reels that have misstamps, over-stamps, and even a Sage that is stamped upside down. In fact, we did a table clinic at the Harpers Ferry National on Stamping Errors. But we don’t know of an error that brought more money.
Thanks, Betty. I guess the only question now is whether we will find any records of an apprentice getting fired...
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can't find it now and forgot the model no.
only double strike i've ever had, never tried to sell it
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Mike, it looks like that 3 was first stamped upside down, rather than a number change. So, probably a factory error by the idiot son-in-law he gave a job.
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Oops!

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When selling this reel potential buyers were put off by the double stamp.

It ended up selling for less than it would have otherwise.

I understand not wasting a complete side plate on a KY reel and resorting to a double stamp. But I'm surprised the EVH Peerless left the factory with a double stamped sliding bearing cover. Why not just toss it out and send a reel out the door at meets your normal standards of perfection ?

Personally, I find double stamps unattractive, to the point where they are of no interest. But, that's just me and my OCD.

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Dean raises a good point about vintage reel collectors. We are so conditioned to focus on a reel’s condition and grading that it is hard to think outside the box when there is an error.

Many of us will remember as kids looking through rolls of pennies for a 1955 double-die Lincoln penny.




I agree that the EVH stamping above would be a non-starter for me. But I think the reel Steve posted is made more collectible by the error. I’m not sure why I intuitively make that decision as an experienced collector, but if I was looking at reels on a table at a show that’s probably how I would evaluate the two.

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I think the reel Steve posted is made more collectible by the error.
Worked for me. Can't remember ever seeing the company name on any other Terry reel, tho the patent date is common. But this example is quite different from a double stamping that's obviously caused by sloppy work.

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Mike N wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:21 am But I think the reel Steve posted is made more collectible by the error.

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I agree. The stamp on the EVH is just plain poor quality control. On Steve's reel its a change ...its an important piece of the evolution of Terry reels.

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With coins it is an error that got past the inspectors. With reels it is often known to the maker who doesn't want to waste parts. Some mis-stamped reels may have left the factory as lunch box specials. I’ve found a few unmarked Shakespeare’s in the Kalamazoo area. I think the unmarked and mis-stamped reels very interesting though but I wouldnt pay extra for one.
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I don't think we can assume these double stamp errors were ever sold. It's possible they were used by employees or gifted to others for personal use.

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Teal wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:24 pm I don't think we can assume these double stamp errors were ever sold. It's possible they were used by employees or gifted to others for personal use.

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Hadn't occurred to me. Certainly a possibility.

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I am of the same mind as Dean, double stamping the same information is a detriment to the value. That being said, stamp over stamping, like Steve's reel, where new information is added is a different kettle of fish altogether. Depending on what information is stamped over the stamp it can add not only to the information about the reel but perhaps to the value as well.
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For anyone that has a overstamped "kentucky" reel that is size 5 or over and wish to get rid of them, just give me a call and I will take them off your hand! THANK YOU!!!
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