Dear All
I am at a bit of a road block Along with other reels I collect old fly reels and I am trying to find out about the early trade reels. I know for example that there was lots of contracting out amoung the various reel makers. JW Young would make reels for Allcock and Heaton would make reels for just about anyone. Slater made reels for Hardy and so on. However finding information on who and what was being sold to whom is proving difficult. The big retailers like Alex Martin and Army and Navy and a host of others would buy reels some times with no name or their name or the manufacturers name but I am really having trouble finding information of the details. Any help here would be appreciated.
Bill Turnbull
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Bill,
I don't know if it would be any help to you but here is a list of Irish makers I have been putting together (any additions anyone can make please email me ). I collect Irish tackle and would love any and all information anyone can supply or any books/source material.
I know many of the Irish makers in the early to mid 1800s were considered very fine tackle makers of the day. A lot was exported to the US, and brought home to England by sportsmen on holiday there...
Here is my list such as it is (I have noted Counties and rivers, and other fisheries that have a relationship to various makers, and variations on names):
County Antrim (Northern Ireland)
Belfast (Belfast Lough & River Lagan )
Bradlows of Belfast
Doherty of Belfast
Moore of Belfast
County Cork
Fermoy
Barber of Fermoy (on River Blackwater)
Cork
Hackets of Cork (on River Lee)
Haynes of Cork (on River Lee)
Mallow
J. O'Harold (or Harrold) of Mallow (on River Blackwater)
County Donegal
Ballyshannon
Rogan of Ballyshannon (on River Erne)
County Dublin
Dublin (River Liffey & Dublin Bay)
Cox of Dublin
Ettensall (or Ettingsall) of Dublin
John Flint of Dublin
Garnett of Dublin (later merged with Keegan)
Keegan of Dublin (later merged with Garnett)
Martin Kelly of Dubin
Long of Dublin
Murray (or Murrey) of Dublin
James Murrey of Dublin
Weeks of Dublin
County Galway
Galway (Galway Bay & River Clare)
Brown of Galway
Lydons of Galway
County Kerry
Killarney (Lake Killarney & River Flesk )
Courtney of Killarney
County Limerick
Castleconnel (on River Shannon)
Enright of Castleconnel
Limerick (River Shannon & River Abbey)
Nestor of Limerick
O' Shoughnassy of Limerick
J. Spring of Limerick
County Mayo
Ballina
Hearns of Ballina (on River Moy)
County Offaly (formerly Kings County)
Birr (Camcor River)
Morrigan (or Morrison) of Birr
County Tyrone (Northern Ireland)
Whites of Omagh
I don't know if it would be any help to you but here is a list of Irish makers I have been putting together (any additions anyone can make please email me ). I collect Irish tackle and would love any and all information anyone can supply or any books/source material.
I know many of the Irish makers in the early to mid 1800s were considered very fine tackle makers of the day. A lot was exported to the US, and brought home to England by sportsmen on holiday there...
Here is my list such as it is (I have noted Counties and rivers, and other fisheries that have a relationship to various makers, and variations on names):
County Antrim (Northern Ireland)
Belfast (Belfast Lough & River Lagan )
Bradlows of Belfast
Doherty of Belfast
Moore of Belfast
County Cork
Fermoy
Barber of Fermoy (on River Blackwater)
Cork
Hackets of Cork (on River Lee)
Haynes of Cork (on River Lee)
Mallow
J. O'Harold (or Harrold) of Mallow (on River Blackwater)
County Donegal
Ballyshannon
Rogan of Ballyshannon (on River Erne)
County Dublin
Dublin (River Liffey & Dublin Bay)
Cox of Dublin
Ettensall (or Ettingsall) of Dublin
John Flint of Dublin
Garnett of Dublin (later merged with Keegan)
Keegan of Dublin (later merged with Garnett)
Martin Kelly of Dubin
Long of Dublin
Murray (or Murrey) of Dublin
James Murrey of Dublin
Weeks of Dublin
County Galway
Galway (Galway Bay & River Clare)
Brown of Galway
Lydons of Galway
County Kerry
Killarney (Lake Killarney & River Flesk )
Courtney of Killarney
County Limerick
Castleconnel (on River Shannon)
Enright of Castleconnel
Limerick (River Shannon & River Abbey)
Nestor of Limerick
O' Shoughnassy of Limerick
J. Spring of Limerick
County Mayo
Ballina
Hearns of Ballina (on River Moy)
County Offaly (formerly Kings County)
Birr (Camcor River)
Morrigan (or Morrison) of Birr
County Tyrone (Northern Ireland)
Whites of Omagh
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those invoices are going to be very hard to find.
I've taken the approach of identifying the reelmakers styles, and I believe this is what most collectors will do.
One thing to remember. In the mid-19th century, most of the merchants were gunsmiths and they made reels as well. By WWI, there were only a handful of actual reel makers left: Hardy, Dingley/Bampton, Heaton, and Young/Allcocks. (Percy Wadham, Moscrop and D. Slater were bought out by Milwards and Allcock in 1921). Young made the lion's share of merchant reels, probably 70% between the wars.
We get into it occasionally on Clark' board. Here's a thread you might want to look at:
(I just traded with Flyman for his Exchequer that he shows on that thread - a piece I'm delighted to get for my collection.) I concentrate my collection on between-the-wars flyreels made by Young.
Elwyn Atwood has the definitive work on Young in press (Medlar press - due for release next month), and he had access to many of those invoices and Young wholesale catalogs.
I've taken the approach of identifying the reelmakers styles, and I believe this is what most collectors will do.
One thing to remember. In the mid-19th century, most of the merchants were gunsmiths and they made reels as well. By WWI, there were only a handful of actual reel makers left: Hardy, Dingley/Bampton, Heaton, and Young/Allcocks. (Percy Wadham, Moscrop and D. Slater were bought out by Milwards and Allcock in 1921). Young made the lion's share of merchant reels, probably 70% between the wars.
We get into it occasionally on Clark' board. Here's a thread you might want to look at:
(I just traded with Flyman for his Exchequer that he shows on that thread - a piece I'm delighted to get for my collection.) I concentrate my collection on between-the-wars flyreels made by Young.
Elwyn Atwood has the definitive work on Young in press (Medlar press - due for release next month), and he had access to many of those invoices and Young wholesale catalogs.
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Dear El and Ron
El the list of Irish reel makers is excellent information. Thank you. I have a couple of good books on English and Scottish reels but have been able to find little on Irish reels. Ron I tried to use the link you posted but had no success. I am however very intersted in participating is some of these discussions so any further help would be appreciated. I have accumulated a fair number of these old reels. However now I want to properly collect them and it is tough getting the information that a collector needs to determine what to buy. For example there is no point in buying an F.T. Williams reel when you find out that Williams was a retail outlet and bought reels off of Farlow that subcontracted the reels out to Heaton. You may just as well buy a reel with the Heaton mark on it. A collector friend of mine in England once said as a joke. When looking an an English Fly reel the first thing you must do it to determine whether or not it is a Heaton. Your Idea of reels before WW1 seems like a good place to concentrate.
Bill Turnbull
El the list of Irish reel makers is excellent information. Thank you. I have a couple of good books on English and Scottish reels but have been able to find little on Irish reels. Ron I tried to use the link you posted but had no success. I am however very intersted in participating is some of these discussions so any further help would be appreciated. I have accumulated a fair number of these old reels. However now I want to properly collect them and it is tough getting the information that a collector needs to determine what to buy. For example there is no point in buying an F.T. Williams reel when you find out that Williams was a retail outlet and bought reels off of Farlow that subcontracted the reels out to Heaton. You may just as well buy a reel with the Heaton mark on it. A collector friend of mine in England once said as a joke. When looking an an English Fly reel the first thing you must do it to determine whether or not it is a Heaton. Your Idea of reels before WW1 seems like a good place to concentrate.
Bill Turnbull
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Bill,
do you know how hard it is to find an alloy flyreel with a Heaton mark on it?
and with the Heaton mark right there, this reel was sold by a well-known UK collector (who knew better) as being a Dingley-made reel. Why? Because it brought higher bids.
or how hard it is to find a prewar Young-made reel with a Young mark on it?
but between them, they probably made 90+% of all UK fly reels in the '20s.
oh, by prewar I actually meant between-the-wars.
For some people on this board, prewar means before 1861.
well try this link, then look down the page for a thread called "rare fly reels"
http://classicflyrodforum.com/forum/
do you know how hard it is to find an alloy flyreel with a Heaton mark on it?
and with the Heaton mark right there, this reel was sold by a well-known UK collector (who knew better) as being a Dingley-made reel. Why? Because it brought higher bids.
or how hard it is to find a prewar Young-made reel with a Young mark on it?
but between them, they probably made 90+% of all UK fly reels in the '20s.
oh, by prewar I actually meant between-the-wars.
For some people on this board, prewar means before 1861.
well try this link, then look down the page for a thread called "rare fly reels"
http://classicflyrodforum.com/forum/
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Hi Ron
Got it. Thank you. This is the type of information one needs. I will be trying to get a copy of John Stephensons's book as it sounds like the information one is looking for. Your JW Young has a beautiful engraved mark. I have been trying with no luck to find out when they started putting the decal with the name on the reels also what type of decal they started with. I have only one reel with a brass decal the rest are Aluminum. Do you have any idea of the dating of these decals. I know how hard it is to find a good reel and in most cases one has to pay the price if he wants to get it. However once you have it everything else doesn't matter. These old reels are like pieces of jewlery and there is nothing made today that can compare with them.
Bill Turnbull
Got it. Thank you. This is the type of information one needs. I will be trying to get a copy of John Stephensons's book as it sounds like the information one is looking for. Your JW Young has a beautiful engraved mark. I have been trying with no luck to find out when they started putting the decal with the name on the reels also what type of decal they started with. I have only one reel with a brass decal the rest are Aluminum. Do you have any idea of the dating of these decals. I know how hard it is to find a good reel and in most cases one has to pay the price if he wants to get it. However once you have it everything else doesn't matter. These old reels are like pieces of jewlery and there is nothing made today that can compare with them.
Bill Turnbull
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no, not Stephenson's book (as good a guy as John is), - it's only a collection of letters on the manufacturing history of the Allcock-Stanley threadline reel. Much good reprimanding of Mr. Stanley by Mr. A.C. Williams, managing director of S. Allcock Co.
No one has really written a book that addresses anything except Hardy.
That's why Elwyn Atwood's book on JW Young is going to blow the doors wide open. (Medlar Press).
No one has really written a book that addresses anything except Hardy.
That's why Elwyn Atwood's book on JW Young is going to blow the doors wide open. (Medlar Press).
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The maker's shield on Young "exes" are only post-WWII reels.
Before WWII, these reels were the Young narrow drum, sold as Allcocks Gilmour and Milwards Flycraft 3663, among various other Merchant marks:
1958 Pridex -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1935 MC Thornburn
1958 Pridex - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1935 MC Thornburn
1939 Allcocks Anglers Guide
Before WWII, these reels were the Young narrow drum, sold as Allcocks Gilmour and Milwards Flycraft 3663, among various other Merchant marks:
1958 Pridex -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1935 MC Thornburn
1958 Pridex - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1935 MC Thornburn
1939 Allcocks Anglers Guide
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Hi Ron
Thank you. My head is spinning right now. I have gone back and looked at my reels and JW Young frames are showing up everwhere. I have some old catalogue pages I want to go through form 1939 by AL&W which showes a bunch of the reels mentioned in these discussions and I am going to try to figure out which ones are JW Young reels. From what I have seen here so far Allcock was the main player. However the makers although contracting for Allcock were making reels for other outlets. As a new collector another thing I find difficult is who were the actual reel makers and who were the comercial outlets. For example did Carter of London make their own line of reels or did the just buy them with their name on them from Allcock. This also applies to outlets like Army and Navey, FT Williams and I imagine there is a host of retailers through England and Scottland that just sold reels that carried their name and did not make them. One more thing I can't find any information on is reels marked "Made in England". Where these part of the trade reels destined to the U.S after 1896 when the U.S. customes inforced the ruling that Items comming into the U.S must have the country of origin on them. Is there anyway to research this.
Do you know if one can pre order one of these books by Elwyn Atwood.
Thank you. My head is spinning right now. I have gone back and looked at my reels and JW Young frames are showing up everwhere. I have some old catalogue pages I want to go through form 1939 by AL&W which showes a bunch of the reels mentioned in these discussions and I am going to try to figure out which ones are JW Young reels. From what I have seen here so far Allcock was the main player. However the makers although contracting for Allcock were making reels for other outlets. As a new collector another thing I find difficult is who were the actual reel makers and who were the comercial outlets. For example did Carter of London make their own line of reels or did the just buy them with their name on them from Allcock. This also applies to outlets like Army and Navey, FT Williams and I imagine there is a host of retailers through England and Scottland that just sold reels that carried their name and did not make them. One more thing I can't find any information on is reels marked "Made in England". Where these part of the trade reels destined to the U.S after 1896 when the U.S. customes inforced the ruling that Items comming into the U.S must have the country of origin on them. Is there anyway to research this.
Do you know if one can pre order one of these books by Elwyn Atwood.
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1937 Milwards Catalog - these are all Young reels.
c. 1937 Milward's Flycraft 3668 3-1/8"
Postwar Flycraft Jr. and Sharpes Gordon
c. 1936-9 Allcocks Stockbridge perfect
3" Young standard grade, Gamages of London
c. '20's Young perfect (refitted with a modern alloy foot)
2-1/2" Young standard grade, alloy foot, JB Walker newcastle
I have several Heaton reels marked only Made in England - now be careful with this one, they bought these castings from Young.
Just to set the record straight, this reel was made by Smith & Wall
20's Allcock Ousel finished by Young from the same castings as the Heaton reel above.
c. 1937 Milward's Flycraft 3668 3-1/8"
Postwar Flycraft Jr. and Sharpes Gordon
c. 1936-9 Allcocks Stockbridge perfect
3" Young standard grade, Gamages of London
c. '20's Young perfect (refitted with a modern alloy foot)
2-1/2" Young standard grade, alloy foot, JB Walker newcastle
I have several Heaton reels marked only Made in England - now be careful with this one, they bought these castings from Young.
Just to set the record straight, this reel was made by Smith & Wall
20's Allcock Ousel finished by Young from the same castings as the Heaton reel above.
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Your head is spinning? Now you know why I get in so many arguments on Clark's board from US collectors who have purchased Young reels sold to them as Dingleys by UK collectors (many of whom knew better).
Several merchants in the US carried Young reels, including William Mills, and Lyon and Colson.
That marked Heaton Reel that I posted at the top of the page is scribed for Army & Navy C.S. Ltd. London, and I have a 4" Heaton Salmon reel stamped for A&N CSL Victoria St.
I have a beautiful boxed Young standard grade stamped for Army & Navy Stores Ltd. Victoria St. - haven't photographed it yet.
Carter of London sold examples of Heaton, Young and Dingley.
And I'm expecting that georgeous c. 1939 Young-made Ogden Smith Exchequer, palming rim, friction drag tightened from the backplate - the '80s flyreel 40 years ahead of its time.
Medlar Press
http://reeltalk.orcaonline.org ... dlar+press
do me a favor, copy the Al&W catalogs - reel pages, one copy for me, and one copy for Harvey in the ORCA library. Thanks
Several merchants in the US carried Young reels, including William Mills, and Lyon and Colson.
That marked Heaton Reel that I posted at the top of the page is scribed for Army & Navy C.S. Ltd. London, and I have a 4" Heaton Salmon reel stamped for A&N CSL Victoria St.
I have a beautiful boxed Young standard grade stamped for Army & Navy Stores Ltd. Victoria St. - haven't photographed it yet.
Carter of London sold examples of Heaton, Young and Dingley.
And I'm expecting that georgeous c. 1939 Young-made Ogden Smith Exchequer, palming rim, friction drag tightened from the backplate - the '80s flyreel 40 years ahead of its time.
Medlar Press
http://reeltalk.orcaonline.org ... dlar+press
do me a favor, copy the Al&W catalogs - reel pages, one copy for me, and one copy for Harvey in the ORCA library. Thanks
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Bill, here's some threads you might want to thumb through where I've been cataloging reels on bamboo-fisher.com.
http://www.stream-fisher.com/bamboofish ... c.php?t=25
http://www.stream-fisher.com/bamboofish ... c.php?t=22
http://www.stream-fisher.com/bamboofish ... c.php?t=68
enjoy
BTW, many of those reels, I've sold in order to finance (well, offset) my collection. Especially the nice postwar reels (ex the green Condex and Flycraft Jr), a few of the RHW Dingleys, and the caliper reels that will fish LHW.
Ron Mc
http://www.stream-fisher.com/bamboofish ... c.php?t=25
http://www.stream-fisher.com/bamboofish ... c.php?t=22
http://www.stream-fisher.com/bamboofish ... c.php?t=68
enjoy
BTW, many of those reels, I've sold in order to finance (well, offset) my collection. Especially the nice postwar reels (ex the green Condex and Flycraft Jr), a few of the RHW Dingleys, and the caliper reels that will fish LHW.
Ron Mc
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Dear Ron
I have had myself burried in research on the JW Young reels for the past few days and I can't get past some nagging questions. As one looks at the various reels suttle differences are apparent. For example the Pridex and the Thornburn you posted at the begining of this thread. Also as I look over my own reels I notice things like the cast post on the frame have different bevels also different widths. The Pridex for example has the bevels on the sides of the post slanting outward while and Carter I have has the bevels slanting inward on similar looking frames. The question nagging me is. Would J W just have sold a blank frame and the merchant who bought it would fisish the spool and the back plate adding the different end caps or latches or screws and different spool designs. Or would JW or Dingley or Heaton finish the complete reel to the specifications of the various merchants. With different castings and fisishings.
Bill Turnbull
I have had myself burried in research on the JW Young reels for the past few days and I can't get past some nagging questions. As one looks at the various reels suttle differences are apparent. For example the Pridex and the Thornburn you posted at the begining of this thread. Also as I look over my own reels I notice things like the cast post on the frame have different bevels also different widths. The Pridex for example has the bevels on the sides of the post slanting outward while and Carter I have has the bevels slanting inward on similar looking frames. The question nagging me is. Would J W just have sold a blank frame and the merchant who bought it would fisish the spool and the back plate adding the different end caps or latches or screws and different spool designs. Or would JW or Dingley or Heaton finish the complete reel to the specifications of the various merchants. With different castings and fisishings.
Bill Turnbull
Bill-I may have overlooked it-someone else may have already noted this-and I suspect you have long since had a copy, but the most comprehensive list I have found of English, Irish, and Scottish reel (and other tackle) makers is in Kewley and Farrar's book "Fishing Tackle for Collectors", Sotheby. It has original addresses as well. Bob
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HI Bill:
Young, Heaton and Dingley would finish the complete reel to the specifications of the various merchants. With different castings and finish details, but still basically from a menu of the current options.
I wish I had a Young wholesale catalog. I'm still talking to Rupe Atwood about buying at least one of these when he's done with them.
Remember for just the between-the-wars reels, we're dealing with 20 years of parts and steady improvements in designs, manufacturing and materials technology.
If you look at my Pridex and Thornburn above, there's one major difference in the casting. The postwar casting (Pridex) had been widened on the backplate to make room for the new hardware, which included wider springs, thicker pawls, removeable stanchions to make maintenance easier and, on the Beaudex, the Regulator mechanism (which was installed on these same castings).
Young, Heaton and Dingley would finish the complete reel to the specifications of the various merchants. With different castings and finish details, but still basically from a menu of the current options.
I wish I had a Young wholesale catalog. I'm still talking to Rupe Atwood about buying at least one of these when he's done with them.
Remember for just the between-the-wars reels, we're dealing with 20 years of parts and steady improvements in designs, manufacturing and materials technology.
If you look at my Pridex and Thornburn above, there's one major difference in the casting. The postwar casting (Pridex) had been widened on the backplate to make room for the new hardware, which included wider springs, thicker pawls, removeable stanchions to make maintenance easier and, on the Beaudex, the Regulator mechanism (which was installed on these same castings).
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Dear Ram and Ron
Again Ron you have turned on the light. I had pulled out a Beaudex and an Allcock, and Carter to make comparissons and could see all the lilttle differences and the nagging began. I have a tendency to go off on tangents so thank you again for bringing me back to reality. This helps clarify a lot of issues.
Ram I am ging to go on Amazon and see if I can find the book you mentioned. Is there a better place find one?
Bill
Again Ron you have turned on the light. I had pulled out a Beaudex and an Allcock, and Carter to make comparissons and could see all the lilttle differences and the nagging began. I have a tendency to go off on tangents so thank you again for bringing me back to reality. This helps clarify a lot of issues.
Ram I am ging to go on Amazon and see if I can find the book you mentioned. Is there a better place find one?
Bill
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Better hurry. I just snagged one of them... I have looked for same book before and it priced to the moon on ebay. Also high from a source in the UK... Amazon seems the best price I have seen.
Good luck
BTW I heard a rumor about other books on IRISH tackle but I can't seem to get a line on any of them... if anyone sees same or has info... email me pronto!
Better hurry. I just snagged one of them... I have looked for same book before and it priced to the moon on ebay. Also high from a source in the UK... Amazon seems the best price I have seen.
Good luck
BTW I heard a rumor about other books on IRISH tackle but I can't seem to get a line on any of them... if anyone sees same or has info... email me pronto!
Irish reels
Bill-Just found 16 copies of Kewley and Farrar ranging from fifty bucks up. Go to: www.abebooks.com and just type in Kewley for author and the title. Pick out the one that suits your budget! Tally Ho Y'all! Bob Miller
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Got my copy yesterday... could have more on the Irish reels in my opinion (that information is STILL harder to find than the reels are so if anyone can offer a book on the subject... ) but a pretty nice read and covers many subjects. It does raise more questions on the subject of the oft time forged "fisherman" reel which is listed on the page of American reels (see thread in 'bay section of chat).
I plan to update my list of Irish makers with the additional information. SO if anyone has anything, anything at all to ADD...
I plan to update my list of Irish makers with the additional information. SO if anyone has anything, anything at all to ADD...
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Dear El
A while back I picked up a beautiful Scottish Titan fly reel in its original leather case off a fellow in Ireland. He is a collector and says he has over 60 Irish reel all with makers names. He wants 400 to 500 U.S for the big salmon reels and 200 to 300 for the trout reels. His email address is I am sure he wouldn't mind you calling him on specific reels you may be looking for. As well he may have other information for your quest.
Bill Turnbull
A while back I picked up a beautiful Scottish Titan fly reel in its original leather case off a fellow in Ireland. He is a collector and says he has over 60 Irish reel all with makers names. He wants 400 to 500 U.S for the big salmon reels and 200 to 300 for the trout reels. His email address is I am sure he wouldn't mind you calling him on specific reels you may be looking for. As well he may have other information for your quest.
Bill Turnbull
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Small world and getting smaller all the time... I know Marty (from the web) and have seen some excellent photos of his impressive collection. Prices he quotes are a tad on the high side for Irish reel values imho as you can still beat Marty out for some at lower prices on ebay. BTW his good pal runs that fly fishing museum in Co Laois so between the two of them they snag a good number of Irish reels.
Marty is a good guy, someday I hope to trade him a bunch of Hopalong Cassidy, TV cowboy and Cowboy stuff for a bunch of his reels. (I'm joking of course, if you have kept an eye on Marty's ebay history he has bought a few TV cowboy items but I am inclined to doubt he would trade good reels for them).
If you keep an eye on ebay in no time you will have the short list of all the players— collectors of Irish tackle. Three or four guys in Ireland, the guy in Scottland, one in England, two guys in the US and me, or there abouts.
Marty is a good guy, someday I hope to trade him a bunch of Hopalong Cassidy, TV cowboy and Cowboy stuff for a bunch of his reels. (I'm joking of course, if you have kept an eye on Marty's ebay history he has bought a few TV cowboy items but I am inclined to doubt he would trade good reels for them).
If you keep an eye on ebay in no time you will have the short list of all the players— collectors of Irish tackle. Three or four guys in Ireland, the guy in Scottland, one in England, two guys in the US and me, or there abouts.
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BTW, I bought these 2 books by Phil Waller:
Fishing Reel's Collecting for All (Vol 1)
Fishing Reels: Collecting for All: Blue Ribbon Edition (Vol 2)
They have the highest quality photography and highest quality photo plates and even paper that I have ever seen in a paper-bound book.
Really 1st rate work. Highly recommended if you have it for UK reels.
Fishing Reel's Collecting for All (Vol 1)
Fishing Reels: Collecting for All: Blue Ribbon Edition (Vol 2)
They have the highest quality photography and highest quality photo plates and even paper that I have ever seen in a paper-bound book.
Really 1st rate work. Highly recommended if you have it for UK reels.