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Can anyone tell me which years the nobby 1963 came with a plastic spool? Are these Rare I've never seen one before? Any help would be appriciated.
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I noted in 5/03 that no catalog showed the plastic spool option for the Nobby. I have found no other reference to it either, but this is not to say that such isn't out there. In 1958 there was a snap-on plastic arbor (not likely as your reel) as an optional ad-on for the Nobby. It is likely that the spool was first available about 1955. Never could figure why it was never shown in a catalog. I just looked again a few minutes ago at all the 50s catalogs. Not there. Had one once, so we know there were two (unless you got mine from someone!). Until more info comes to light that may have to do. Keep on! Bad Bob
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thats more than i had thanks. Its kind of a interesting design the way the thing is put together if i get around to it i'll get a picture.
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Anonymous wrote:thats more than i had thanks. Its kind of a interesting design the way the thing is put together if i get around to it i'll get a picture.
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Youngguy,
I was looking at a group of Pflueger reels at the Bartlesville show Saturday, hoping to find a couple to fish with. I noticed a Nobby with an all white plastic spool and thought that was something that I hadn't noticed before. Only problem, it wasn't smooth as I like to find to use so I didn't buy it. Could it have been a replacement? If not, they are out there.
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All, I've owned two or three of those Nobbys through the years, and the spools are definitely factory plastic. I don't believe they were added as accessories. I think it was a shortlived attempt to answer the wet line/carroded spool problem as well as provide a lighter spool. I've never seen any damaged ones, so I'm not sure why the idea was abandoned so quickly. It's had to believe they're not mentioned anywhere in Pflueger literature. Jim
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After Shakespeare bought Pflueger they produced a Nobby (1967-69) so I am wondering if they could be a Shakespeare addition to the reel. This reel was not the satin finish but a bright finish. Just a thought..Robin, what type of gears are in it? Are any of them the white plastic type?

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I took it apart tonight all the gears are brass.
on the foot it has patented and pats pending, looks like a plain nobby to me other than the spool. heres some pics.

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The spool in the photo is the same as the one I observed on a Nobby at the meet last weekend. How's the smoothness of this Nobby? Once again I ask, "Could this be a replacememt from another reel?"
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This reel is smooth as silk you couldn't ask for it to spin any better and it doesn't make any noise.
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I thought these plastic-spooled Pfluegers were an attempt to make a spool that could handle mono line without the need for a spool filler (cuz we all know what mono done to cork fillers!).
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That is a good theory makes alot of sense its a very hard plastic and there is almost no gap between the frame and the spool so mono would probably work great on it. Thanks for help
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Hi All,

Got into this discussion late, but I just found two Pfluegers with plastic spools which like the one shown herein. However, neither are Nobbys. One is a Summet 1993L with foot marked Patented Pats Pending.

The other reel is a Skilkast No 1953 with foot marked with letter B. The finish is bright and I expect like that discussed above - the Diomolite finish.

The original Reel foldout instruction papework is with the Skilkast. This paperwork shows all the parts and described the plastic spool right under the photo of the reel on the front page. The pamplet has no date, but there is a ID number FORM 119B6 on the bottom of the front page of the pamplet.

Looks like the Spool was injection molded in two halves and joined together on the arbor. Have not disassembled to check gears so don't know if this helps date or not.

Don't have a Nobby, but maybe someone can infer date from the ID on the pamplet.

Hope this helps.

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Do you have a box for either? If you do is it a normal box, is there any mention of the spool on the box? Good to hear theres more out there in different models.
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Howdy...I have a Summit 1993L box with the insert in it that has the plastic spool listed on the front page. Unfortunately there is no inspection stamp on the bottom of the box. Also in the box there is the insert for the Comfo-Ring. I looked in what catalogs I have and the first mention of the Comfo-Ring coming with the Summit 1993L in the box was 1959/60. This is just what I was able to find. Hopefully someone can shed some more light on this subject.

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Here are photos of the Skilkast No 1963 with Plastic Spool & Pamphlet. The words "Plastic Spool" are directly below center of the reel photo. I don't have a box.

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Also. after looking in another box, I found a couple nobby's with the satin finish.

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I have ask the question a couple of times about the possibility of the plastic spools that we see on Nobbys being replacememt spools from another reel. I'll put the question this way. Is the Nobby spool interchangable with the Summit or the Skilkast? I have seen a number of Summit reels with white plastic spools, and if it's the same spool that the Nobby has, it could very well have been changed by a fisherman. Really, I'd be surprised if the Nobby wasn't offered with a plastic spool at sometime, I just didn't remember seeing one before last weekend.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the nobby and summit spools were interchangable but the skilkast probably wouldnt work. Most people that i've talked to now in person and a few from on here have heard of the nobby coming with it but not the others, but since theres paper work for the others we know they came with it so If they made a summit and skilkast i wouldn't see why they wouldn't make a nobby I also talked to one gentleman who thought he remembered seeing an akron.

Thanks to everyone for your help i've learned more about these than i thought i would.
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Warren...The Summit and Nobby parts do interchange as there was a Summit-Nobby Parts Assortment sold. The photo is of an insert from the Summit box I mentioned in a previous post. As you can see, the Summit 1193L came with a plastic spool, I just don't know exactly what year it was since the bottom of the box isn't stamped. As I mentioned before, since there was an insert for the comfo-grip I am assuming it is from later 1950s-early 1960s as that is the first catalog I found where the Summit came with a comfo grip in the box...

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Is the only mention of the plastic spool on the insert or is there mention of it on the box also because mine came with a box but i wasn't sure if it was original or not since there is no mention of it on the box? I bought 3 nobby's which came with two boxes none of the reels were in the boxes so i'm not sure which came with which but the one is dated 1950 so that is much earlier than the time frame we've kind of agreed on the other however is 1957 but like i said the two normal 1963's could have easily belonged to the boxes.
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Well speaking of nobby's with odd spools heres one i found on ebay it looks a little dirty but it is the same as mine otherwise

ebay # 7222263018
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Post by Dale Noll »

Finally got time to disassemble a Skilkast and a Nobby to check if the Plastic Spools are interchangeable. Well, there is a difference in the metal arbor and the pinion gear components, so the Skilkast Plastic Spool will not interchange with the Nobby Plastic Spool.

The arbor is longer on the Tailplate side of the Skilkast to accommodate the different drag design system. You could not field exchange without factory tools because the arbor shaft and pinion gear setup are different.

The Plastic parts are identical, but these are assembled onto the metal arbor with different componets.

Hopes this helps.

Dale.

Note: I have an extra Summit and Nobby with these plastic Spools if anyone wants either to fill out your collection.
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Post by el Lawrence »

I have just done a poll of my thirty or fourty odd Nobby 1965s and of the ones where the spool shows (not spooled with line) there are NO plastic spools. I have only a few (five or six) plastic arbors and a handful of cork ones but the plastic on these are most decidedly the snap on arbors not the spool shown in photos above.
I guess this was a later introduction after the 1965s were made...
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