I was wondering about a reel that I got at auction last week. I bought a lot of reels because I wanted one of the reels ( Penn Long beach 150yds). I got the lot for thirty dollars and the seven other reels were gravy.
One of the reels is a Ocean City Bay City. I do not know much about the Ocean City reels let alone the Bay City. The reel is in very good condition. The drive dog was stuck by excessive grease but is now free. There are no chips scratches or corrosion on the reel. It is in very good condition. I want to finish cleaning it up and give it to a friend of mine who owns a boat. I just don’t want to give away a reel that might have historical value ( I want to give my friend a good working reel). Would someone let me know a little about this reel before I give it away.
Ocean City Reel Bay City
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Hello Nemo,
I only know a bit about Ocean City reels. I have some and I think they were good production reels. The Bay City covers a great amount of years. The 1935 model some might consider a milestone reel for Ocean City because it was intorduced as a newly patented reel with syncro-mesh gears and a new type of free spool lever. The 1935 reel had a wood handle. Later Bay City reels went to the plastic handle. I would guess that the model was made for over 30 years. The are not valuable. A mint 1950's Bay City in the box might bring $50 from a Ocean City lover.
Now tell me about the 150 yard Long Beach. I have a very early 150 yard Long Beach, wood bell shaped handle with hex retaining nut, waffle style clicker button, four posts, no identification numbers on the foot, spool width is 1 9/16 inches and black sideplates. Is your similar?
I only know a bit about Ocean City reels. I have some and I think they were good production reels. The Bay City covers a great amount of years. The 1935 model some might consider a milestone reel for Ocean City because it was intorduced as a newly patented reel with syncro-mesh gears and a new type of free spool lever. The 1935 reel had a wood handle. Later Bay City reels went to the plastic handle. I would guess that the model was made for over 30 years. The are not valuable. A mint 1950's Bay City in the box might bring $50 from a Ocean City lover.
Now tell me about the 150 yard Long Beach. I have a very early 150 yard Long Beach, wood bell shaped handle with hex retaining nut, waffle style clicker button, four posts, no identification numbers on the foot, spool width is 1 9/16 inches and black sideplates. Is your similar?
Thanks for the information on the OC Bay City.
I got the bay city working. I had parts from another OC reel with the lot of reels that I got. I scavenged parts from the pile and incorporated them into the OC reel and It works good now. I took the gears and drag (multi disk SS) from parts of another reel and replaced the gears and drag ( Brass and worn single disk).
I will be posting pictures of my Long Beach when I get some. I believe you reel is earlier than mine because you describe the hex nut for the wood handle. Mine has the bar type dog spring, waffle line out alarm, bell shaped handle (plastic) and has 150yds stamped on the stand. There are pictures of some of the parts in another thread.
http://reeltalk.orcaonline.org/viewtopic.php?t=3753
I am going to put pictures of the whole reel when I get the chance. I am waiting for some lube I ordered to come in the mail. Once I get the lube I will reassemble the reel.
I got the bay city working. I had parts from another OC reel with the lot of reels that I got. I scavenged parts from the pile and incorporated them into the OC reel and It works good now. I took the gears and drag (multi disk SS) from parts of another reel and replaced the gears and drag ( Brass and worn single disk).
I will be posting pictures of my Long Beach when I get some. I believe you reel is earlier than mine because you describe the hex nut for the wood handle. Mine has the bar type dog spring, waffle line out alarm, bell shaped handle (plastic) and has 150yds stamped on the stand. There are pictures of some of the parts in another thread.
http://reeltalk.orcaonline.org/viewtopic.php?t=3753
I am going to put pictures of the whole reel when I get the chance. I am waiting for some lube I ordered to come in the mail. Once I get the lube I will reassemble the reel.
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I would say your Long Beach is a late 1930's model. I do not know when that logo started but I venture a guess at 1937. I presume the handle on your reel is drilled for the scalopped nut locking screw. It seems the 150 yard models are more rare. The one I have was a lucky find and is a 1933 or 34 with all original parts and used but always cleaned. I had no crud or corrosion of any kind.
I just won a Longbeach on EBay that might pre-date my 150 but I can not talk about it yet because I have not received it from the seller. If the deal continues to go smooth and I get the reel, I will be post some pictures of it during the cleaning process.
I just won a Longbeach on EBay that might pre-date my 150 but I can not talk about it yet because I have not received it from the seller. If the deal continues to go smooth and I get the reel, I will be post some pictures of it during the cleaning process.
My Long Beach reel handle does have the hole drilled for the scalloped nut and lock screw. It is finished in nickel. I was lucky to find this reel. Like I said it was in a pile of broken reels for sale on flea bay. The picture did not show the reel very well. I thought I saw a wood handle and asked questions of the seller. He told me it was a long beach with a wood handle (wrong about the wood handle) and said the logo was written straight across. I almost had one of my questions back fire on me. I asked the seller of the Sea Hawk what the logo looked like and if it had a waffle line out alarm. He posted pictures on the web. Uggghhhh. I thought, now everyone is going to want it. Luckily I got it for not to much.
I lost out on recent bidding on long beach, Coronado, Silver Beach and some others that were for sale on flea bay recently. I did not want to spend over seventy dollars on the reel. I did get one long beach HD but I do not know much about it. I got it cheep. I believe it is the precursor to the live bait reel. I also won the Sea Hawk reel with the waffle line out alarm. I believe it to be late thirties model as well.
I like the earlier reels. I have been collecting wood handle Penn’s. However many Penn reels with wood handles were made on the fifties. I think if I limit my purchases to reels with the waffle line out alarm I will be able to have a manageable scope to the collection. It will also keep it with in one time frame mainly the mid to late thirties. Of course I would love to get and will jump on any deals where I find a reel with the dome line out alarm (early thirties).
I lost out on recent bidding on long beach, Coronado, Silver Beach and some others that were for sale on flea bay recently. I did not want to spend over seventy dollars on the reel. I did get one long beach HD but I do not know much about it. I got it cheep. I believe it is the precursor to the live bait reel. I also won the Sea Hawk reel with the waffle line out alarm. I believe it to be late thirties model as well.
I like the earlier reels. I have been collecting wood handle Penn’s. However many Penn reels with wood handles were made on the fifties. I think if I limit my purchases to reels with the waffle line out alarm I will be able to have a manageable scope to the collection. It will also keep it with in one time frame mainly the mid to late thirties. Of course I would love to get and will jump on any deals where I find a reel with the dome line out alarm (early thirties).
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The Coronado was an interesting reel that I watched all week on """flea bay""" 
... I believe it had a model no. 90 on it. I also thing it was the first of the take apart Penns. Anyways, I did not bid it. Maybe the next one.
I collect early Penns and the colored series of the fifties and I am always looking for proto-types.
The dome type clicker you mentioned is the oldest version and would probably only be found on the old Model F and K side plate, even if that side plate was stamped with the Sea Hawk, Seaford, Bayside or Long Beach logo.
When you find one of those, then you know you have got a milestone reel. That reel would also have to have three posts instead of four. They exist, for sure...
... I believe it had a model no. 90 on it. I also thing it was the first of the take apart Penns. Anyways, I did not bid it. Maybe the next one. I collect early Penns and the colored series of the fifties and I am always looking for proto-types.
The dome type clicker you mentioned is the oldest version and would probably only be found on the old Model F and K side plate, even if that side plate was stamped with the Sea Hawk, Seaford, Bayside or Long Beach logo.
When you find one of those, then you know you have got a milestone reel. That reel would also have to have three posts instead of four. They exist, for sure...
I have an interesting 155. It has a multi colored spool. It is a mottled black and brown. It has the bar type dog spring, orange translucent football handle and only the word oil on the handle nut. It was in the pile of reels I got with the long beach. It is in working condition with about 80 percent chrome loss.