charles fasoldt reels for sale

[reel girl]

I have put two Charles Fasoldt reels up for sale on e-bay. The auction
will run for 9 days. This my be your only chance to own one of
these rare reels. Good luck

[Richard Lodge]

This comment might be worthy of the "get off my lawn, kid!" category, but these unusual reels aren't really "for sale" on eBay, are they? They are up for auction and will be sold to the highest bidder who meets the reserve. Shouldn't this post be listed under "eBay" on the Reel Talk board? Either that or put a price or proposed trade on the posting.
Yeh, picky, picky. Go back in your cave, old feller.

[john elder]

I agree...and on top of that, it's also burning space on the Reel Talk page. If everyone that listed a reel on ebay posted here to "help" us find the listing, that would tie up the entire site...picky,picky, yes...but that's the way I feel...

[fishbugman]

If everyone that listed a reel on ebay posted here to "help" us find the listing

Wow...I never thought of doing that, but what a terrific idea. Thanks John!

[Araye50]

IMHO these very old & unusual reels may truly be unique enough to deserve such an announcement in the REEL TALK section. Some really early reels transend being merely collectible & may be seen as historic museum pieces. I was curious enough to look them up on fleabay.

Webster defines 'Auction' as a public SALE in which goods are sold to the highest bidder, which would leave little doubt that these reels are in fact For Sale. However, I do have serious doubts about calling what fleabay does an "auction" though. IMO its more like a digital game of chance.

I have put two Charles Fasoldt reels up for sale on e-bay.
This my be your only chance to own one of
these rare reels.

I'm also "picky, picky" too & note that there are 2 separate auctions which provide 2 chances NOT "your only chance to own one". An enthusiastic bidder could, theoretically at least, win both. So there's even a "chance to own" BOTH "of these rare reels".

IMO the "get off my lawn, kid!" category tends to be on a sliding scale. I'd kick my neighbor's rotten kid "off" in a heartbeat. However if Anita Breim trespassed on "my lawn" I'd be happy to allow her to "tie up the entire site" as long as she liked.

[fishbugman]

IMHO these very old & unusual reels may truly be unique enough to deserve such an announcement in the REEL TALK section. Some really early reels transend being merely collectible & may be seen as historic museum pieces.

Who decides what deserves to be placed here based on its historical value...or where is the line drawn on those reels that are only very rare or merely just rare, instead of museum pieces. Irrelevant of age, rarity, historic or pre-historic uniqueness...everyone can or no one can use the website to promote their auctions. A decision for the moderators. Has anyone ever figured out exactly what it takes to be considered an ANTIQUE? Anyone could bid $5000 and probably own one, even if they do not own a museum. I certainly would not bid that kind of money to an EBAY seller with a feedback rating of (1)

[Jeff Johnson]

Charging $55 to ship one reel seems a bit inflated to me. Not that I would be able to afford one anyways.

[Brian F.]

Charging $55 to ship one reel seems a bit inflated to me. Not that I would be able to afford one anyways.

Figuring on a high sales price and insuring accordingly?

[Araye50]

I think you're missing the point. Its not an issue about who "can use the website to promote their auctions". ORCA generously opened this website to everyone & provides sections both; For Sale & specifically Ebay, to actively promote sales. Thanks. Discussion was on the "picky, picky" issue; if the post was appropriately placed in this section based on technicalities.

Who decides what deserves to be placed here based on its historical value...or where is the line drawn on those reels that are only very rare or merely just rare, instead of museum pieces. Irrelevant of age, rarity, historic or pre-historic uniqueness...everyone can or no one can use the website to promote their auctions. A decision for the moderators.

Note that reel girl chose to post both in For Sale & Reel Talk sections. On the sliding technical scale I agree the post would be most appropriate in Ebay, slightly less appropriate in For Sale & perhaps least appropriate in Reel Talk. However due to the unusual rarity of Charles Fasoldt reels combined w/the large generosity & capacity of ORCA's website I see little very harm w/OP. The harm seems to have come w/nit picking "burning space on the Reel Talk page".

Since Brian has obviously read the thread, contributed to it & not transplanted it to the Ebay section its safe to assume modville has made "A decision". Frankly I'm surprised & disappointed discussion wasn't launched on the unusual features of the very interesting & desireable Charles Fasoldt reels themselves. Please see Ebay section.

[Jason]

I'd be surprised if the reserve is met. Just because one reel sold for $6500 doesn't mean that's what its worth.

Its like the recent news that 20% of homeowners owe more on their homes than they are worth. I'm sure 20% of reel collectors buy reels for more than they are worth. I guess its all about what we can afford and how bad we want it.

It is a cool reel, if I had more money than I knew what to do with, it would look good on my shelf.

[reel girl]

WOW Who let the dogs out?
I was surprised by some of the comments made here. I would like to address them. First YES these VERY RARE reels are for sale on e-bay. And yes a auction is a public sale. I wrote in my first post "the auction will run for 9 days" I was not hiding anything. I'am new to this fourm as well as a seller on e-bay.(maybe it was time to climb out of my cave). For the record I'am not an old feller. I'am a young lady. When I first posted I did not realize I had posted in the Reel Talk section. Once I realized my mistake I put my post in For Sale. And decided to let the moderators remove the post if they felt it necessary. But to say three lines in Reel Talk is burning up space is a "picky" comment. I decided to sell these reels from my collection for personal reasons that need no other explanation. I have spent the last 8 months gathering all the information I could before listing these reels. I contacted several of the ORCA members for help. After considering their wealth of information and suggestions I decided to list the way I have. I also agreed to let them know when the reels went to auction. This is why I posted on the ORCA forum. This was not a surprise to some. I listed the reels in two separate auctions with hopes that a couple of collectors may have a chance to own one. This will also allow one person the opportunity for both. I never had any intention on a trade for these reels. As for the shipping cost of $55.00 it is stated in the listing that this cost of $55.00 is for the shipping as well as the insurance. With this being said I do believe any Charles Fasoldt reel is a VERY RARE and collectible item. And yes a antique as well. As a new e-bay seller of course my feedback rating is a 1. You can not build that without listing now can you? And you will never learn without trying. I would hope this would not keep someone from bidding. My intentions were never to miss lead anyone. I listed these VERY RARE reels in hopes a reel collector would add them to their collection and enjoy them as we have.I hope the comments made by the "picky picky" people will not discourage anyone that may be interested in these reels. Being a member since 2003 does not make you an expert. I would hope in the furture the "picky picky" people here would offer advice and not criticism to new members.

[Richard Lodge]

Reelgirl: I was being too curmudgeonly and the silly smiley face emoticon in my original posting didn't seem to get across what was intended as gentle criticism. I welcome any and all reel collectors into our hobby and I wasn't trying to flame you in any way. You do have two interesting and rare reels. I wish you luck with your auction and, like a previous poster, I wish I had deep pockets because I'd happily add one of those classics to my reel collection.
best of luck,
Richard Lodge

[fishbugman]

ReelGril,

My post had to do with people (you in this case) using this website to promote their EBAY auctions. Now if you offered it in the FOR SALE on ORCA with a price of whatever, that is one thing. Once it is on EBAY, it isn't fair for one person to promote their stuff here no matter what it is. I list 20-30 fishing items a week on EBAY, BBBbBlists 10 a week, CCCCCCCClists 12 a week...if everyone uses the website to promote their EBAY sales items, pretty soon this website looks just like EBAY. That is just my opinion, so means nothing...

So, now that you have opened up to everyone here, how much are your reserves on the two Fasoldt reel auctions?

[Araye50]

Sorry, but I still don't think you get the point. Its obvious that, for the most part, ORCA contributors decide what to post here & the ORCA Board decided to enthusiastically promote buying, selling & trading by opening both For Sale & Ebay sections to "everyone". ORCA readers benefit from such posts. Thank you.

My post had to do with people (you in this case) using this website to promote their EBAY auctions.

Once it is on EBAY, it isn't fair for one person to promote their stuff here no matter what it is.

if everyone uses the website to promote their EBAY sales items, pretty soon this website looks just like EBAY

IMO there's simply no justifiable fear "this website" will ever look "just like EBAY". I recall some dead ended discussions about how to stimulate the weak buy/sell/trade activity here. ORCA generously decided its "fair" for "people/everyone" to freely use "this website to promote their EBAY sales items" & even dedicated a section to it. This activity remains a trickle, even w/ORCA's encouragement.

In this case the original criticism seemed to be that it was not appropriate to post an eBay item in For Sale section b/c it was "burning space on the Reel Talk page". However "space" doesn't seem to be an issue. In all of April there are just 24 posts in For Sale, 7 of which are Wanteds, in March there are 36, of which 13 are Wanteds. I respectfully suggest that ORCA can handle this small volume & if contributors ever overused ORCA's generosity the Board could easily add restrictions. I'm not sure if a high volume seller like you, who might post as many as 52 items per week, over 200 monthly & 2700 annually wouldn't strain ORCA's largess?

To address the issue of reel girl having used Reel Talk & For Sale, instead of the Ebay section, I took the liberty of posting a direct link to these unusual auctions under Ebay. In most auctions with "reserves" they're revealed only at seller's discretion. IMO in this case it does very much "matter what it is" & reel girl did no harm.