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at great risk for posting without an explanation, I add the following hint.

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Brings back memories.

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Thanks for the picture! It took me back over 25 years to when I was a kid on a trip to Canada with my Dad and several other relatives. My Uncle Bill was snoozing just like that in the back of the boat with a minnow on the other end of his line. The minnow was soon replaced with something much larger! He caught the handle just as it was going over. I never saw him move quicker (he still wasn't that fast!) I was laughing so hard I couldn't ever remember if he caught the fish or not!

Back then "Flame Wars" were us fighting over those burning mosquito repellent coils, and internet was where you put that big Northern before you pulled it interboat!
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John's photos reminded me that there is one thing that helps calm a person even more than fishing - that's when your dog comes up and nuzzles your hand to see what's wrong. Now to go one step further, just take your dog fishing with you and you can even forgive the jet skiis. Here is Bert the Boykin, our reel trading Boykin Spaniel, who even wrote a column once for The Reel News.
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Danged. This is some good stuff. How was it that I missed this little skirmish? The only thing missing is one of my non-thinking fly off the handle posts. :)
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missed out

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joe you were out surf casting carl
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Carl:
I think you're right. I don't get no help around here either. It's not a very good picture, but this guy is supposed to be my helper.


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Just a coupla questions before I go puppy shopping:
Was it a canine companion taking John's photos?
Can either Bert or Joe's Rug tie an improved clinch knot?
Sure could use some help while fishing with the grandkids.
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Great pictures.

Makes me want to go out side and look at the mountains!

Highest elevation we have is where a bridge goes over a swamp!

Joe, Are you sure that ain't a skunk pelt?

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Isn't this much nicer?

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If only we would all just take a deep breath and think about what is really important or just ask a question or two before we slay the dragon we may still have one or two around. How deep is this guys :idea:
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Hi Guys,
Got junk box 3 home from father's house a few days ago and it contained 2 "Good-All" reels (remember the original post?). One has a single knob handle and a retrieve button. The other is a double knob like the one in the original post. That one has something very unusual about it. On the top of the cover (as it sits on the shelf, bottom as it hangs under the rod) is a patch of knurling about a half inch wide and 1 1/2 inches long. It was put on at the factory because it's under the paint. At Zebco we would knurl front covers when they were too large to shrink them down which is why some 33s have it and some don't. The purpose on the "Good-All" is clearly the same (why didn't they use narrow knurling and go all the way around the cover). My question is this, has anyone else seen this "patch knurling" on one of these reels?

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:o 8) :!: :?: :arrow: Clinton, I would be most interested what ZEBCO used to fit inside the cover before it was knurled? We only used this knurling when the covers are too lose, , at first we made wooden plugs that went inside the cover, as we do all makes of reels we just had a few too many plugs, As I was working on the boat engine and compresing piston rings the(compresor ) is adj. I bought a smaller one that lawn mower shops used and with the aid of a small plug inserted the we could insert the small shaft of the plug into the lathe chuck. now all we did was use 475 rpm aprox. and a single knurling head , presto the cover was now expanded to fit the housing. works on Diawas, zebcos pflugers etc any reel with a exterior cover or internal cover, the knurls keep the cover from shaking off . As for the good all , the tru spin etc those take a lot of time to do. Had a rather nice conversation Friday with someone that knew your dad and you, said your dad used to go to the Mason lodge with her Husban, she has been with ZECO almost 18 years now, trmendous person with a lot of knowledge, ( Our one and only Mary) Next question! when are you going to take over the ZEBCO SIG group? Paul has not been around for well over 1&1/2 years. With your knowledge you can make the SIG a BIG GO! Zebco being one of the oldest American reels makers, 1949? and still going! I will let you teel the story of the ZERO HOUR BOMB they sent to Eisenhauer in 1949! I still get a chuckle on that one, . With all those assorted reels and prototypes you now have , I am certain ORCA and the members would enjoy the pics and history. Your ohio Conection Col. Milton lorens aka SWIM JIG
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Hi Milt,

Yup, I've sat in lodge with Mary's husband Ted. Father has coffee with Ted's father every morning (small world, isn't it).

Zebco SIG? Sure! What do I do?

Knurling machine...

Father and I remember this thing the same way. They'd only use it if they were in a bind. The machine sat on a cast iron stand that came to about waist level. Stick the front cover in and close the knurling tool then turn the hand crank until the knurling goes all the way around. Not enough? Tighten the tool and run it through again. As I recall the inner wheel it was not made of wood. It was metal. Father says that he never knew how the vendors handled this, but this was how Zebco did it.

How president Eisenhower renamed Zebco:

I have a written copy of this that says the year was 1956. Someone at the Zero Hour Bomb Company heard that the president loved to fish. Drooling with the prospect of getting a picture of the commander-in-chief using their product, a reel was put into a box and sent right off to the white house. When it arrived, a mail-room clerk noticed that he was holding a box from a bomb company in the white house! The box was put (thrown) into a water tank until the bomb squad arrived. My copy of the story says that the president did indeed like the reel (although no pictures are known to exist). It was very soon after this that the name of the company was officially changed to Zebco.

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Wow ... what a response! I hope ya'll bring this much passion to your fishing. First, thanks to the person(s) who gave me some helpful information. The ebay examples were very helpful. I have been looking on ebay for these reels but had never found any of them. I fully understand that this is not the proper forum for conducting commerce. Second, I want to know the history of this equipment. Of course, the value is of always of interest. However, quite frankly, the monetary value doesn't mean squat to me. My Dad's old, beat-to-hell pflueger fly reel means more to me anybody's whole dang collection. I think I'll take my "low grade stuf(sic)" and go get my line wet. Third, I find the history of fishing and fishing equipment quite interesting. I intend visit this organization in the future.
One final thought and this is not directed at all collectors. This is a case of "if the shoe fits, wear it". There is saying, "Those that can, do. Those that cannot, teach." I wonder ... in fishing, is it, " Those that can, fish. Those that cannot, collect." Sorry, couldn't resist. No hard feelings?
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gee, Gordie, thanks for peeing on our shoes as you left the building :D I think if you follow the board dialogue very often, you'll realize there are some pretty good fishermen in the collecting business (guy at top of page is clearly an exception to this). I think the more appropriate paraphrase for many of us would be "...those that haven't the time to fish, collect."
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Maybe that wasn't the original guy asking the question. In any case, I guess we did get off track a little. What was the question? :wink:
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This is Gordon, sorry I got a little miffed. As I said, I love fishing and recently I find old equipment interesting. This is an interesting site. I'll be back.
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I guided two guys in the TX Hill Country last weekend. It was very nice, fishing 8'-wide creeks tunneled in cypress trees, using little 6' flyrods (cane and fiberglass, and antique reels). Between us, we caught 100 smallmouth.
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