ORCA 2006, too early ????

reels4me · Post by **reels4me** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:09 pm

Just a little nudge about `06, the NFLCC National is to be held here in
Grand Raoids, MI ORCA tie-in ? That would be great for me I live about
10 miles from the site, July I think, or June ?-----Jack

SWIM JIG · Post by **SWIM JIG** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:25 pm

HEY I would like a show in AMHERST OHIO , so all I had to do was walk out the door to it, as Phil sated on another site , why dont you Sponsor a SHOW? or a group of you do it? however we have had two in a row in michigan Lansing and Dawaijiac mich, did you not attend either of those? I am certain Phil will come up with some sugestions in a few moments! Col. M. Lorens aka SWIM JIG your Ohio Conection

Reel Geezer · Post by **Reel Geezer** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:09 am

Jack & Milt: I have nothing to do with where ORCA holds their conventions. The person in charge of that area is ORCA VP Bill Muth.

However, I should mention that for many years ORCA held an “annual meeting” at the NFLCC national meet. The last thing that I would like to see ORCA do is revert back to relegating themselves to an add-on of the NFLCC. In my opinion the ORCA National Convention is far ahead of the NFLCC swap meet and there is no comparison between the two.

reels4me · Post by **reels4me** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:36 pm

Hi Phil-- I agree 100% not to share space with NFLCC, however being
that there are an additional 1000 or so tackle enthusiasts in the area at
that time, might it not increase interest in our hobby and garner a few
new members ? Just a thought, will be seeing Bill Muth this week-end
perhaps we will discuss same. . . .Adious

Dale Noll · Post by **Dale Noll** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:23 pm

Im not sure that increasing ORCA membership should be that high of a Prioity. We already have a good sized group. A well organized event by those who accept the responsability is most important. If we look just at geography or a tie-in with NFLCC, we could be missing out.

Im in favor of an ANNUAL Mini convention once a yr, like in Florida in Feb. Ive heard there is a Worlds Shakespeare collection there. Maybe some Florida ORCA's could arrange a field trip to Ft L. Florida has 44 members if my count is right. Should be enough to put on a good Mini.

Don Champion · Post by **Don Champion** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:58 am

I'm not all that certain I like the idea of NFLCC & ORCA sharing space in the nationals either. At other events, yes. Florida in Feb. sounds great. Anyone want to host it?

Don Champion · Post by **Don Champion** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:58 am

I'm not all that certain I like the idea of NFLCC & ORCA sharing space in the nationals either. At other events, yes. Florida in Feb. sounds great. Anyone want to host it?

SWIM JIG · Post by **SWIM JIG** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:06 pm

DIDNT ORCA slit off because of a conflict! I aggree with PHIL, No joint national shows, as a Member I hope in ggod standing of both Orginizations and generaly doing a regonal show in TENN. lets keep them separated! As for a show in Florida is there not one comming up this month? We will never keep everone content, However my only complaint is, the shows are held before school is out, thus If I did our national in TEXAS this year I would miss FROGGY JIGS graduation, now what comes first? My thoughts and verble voiceing is have the shows in late june or early july or even august, thus more faimly may attend, I relize this may be against some thinkig however the wife and yougsters may take the vehical or if renting one for folks that fly in then they can use the time for a general vaction while us (REEL NUTS) enjoy ourselves! I dont like amusment parks the wife does, she and the kid go, I go fishing, I dont like craft shops she dont like antique and gun shops , She dont like reel shows or gun shows however she goes shopping at least we are together and NO one sits at home with a SHORT LITE FUSE! Now that is my thoughts, as life is too darn short to be apart at vacation time! florida is nice how about the CRYSTAL RIVER AREA? nice fishing there! JUNE would work good as lodging rates are on the way down! Col. Milton Lorens aka SWIM JIG your snowed in OHIO conection

reels4me · Post by **reels4me** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:02 pm

As I said: "agree 100% NOT to share space w/ NFLCC" but an opportunity
to utilize the interest their convention will create, realize they have about
4 times the membership. . . .food for thought.

Steve · Post by **Steve** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:33 pm

Over a several-year period before the Raystown convention, some people went to a lot of effort to divorce ORCA from the NFLCC nationals at last. Reassociating with the lure club, regardless of the convenience, would be a bad idea, and ORCA would regain its image of being nothing more than a "branch" of that group.

Harvey · Post by **Harvey** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:58 pm

Objections!
Let me count the ways!
Going back to having our Yearly Convention coincide with the NFLCC National would be like kissing your sister. Some of us complained for years to make the break-away move and now Someone suggesting that we return to old habits. They should be dealt with using drastic measures . How about using the said individual for the target in the “Ugly Reel Toss” contest? Maybe we could make him do all the dishes after the “Breakfast With the Board of Directors”? How about making him responsible for taking “Bert” for his trip to do his duty while we are in Houston? As for regional shows, I am sure that anyone could get a nod of the head from the ORCA officers if they wanted to promote and put a show together anytime. Lets face it, we will never have a membership that would compare with the NRA or AARP so we should just be satisfied with what we can muster. Sure, maybe a co-hosted show between us and lure collectors would be to that benefit of gaining more members but we have a very healthy and vibrant club anyway and we should just work harder at maintaining our current membership and letting non-members know about us.
That’s my stump and I am setting on it!
“H”

cws/carl schultz · Post by **cws/carl schultz** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:12 pm

i agree harvey step backward to reaffiliate again with nflcc although i like many others in orca also belong to nflcc i will be attending the national nflcc when in GR just to sell & buy reels but i know when it comes to learning orca the place to be all shows i attend i try to have orca info available and ansewer questions freely as best i can and some day we may get some of these friends of orca to join[but to quote groucho marx i wouldnt join any club that would have me as a member]

Harvey · Post by **Harvey** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:50 pm

You must relize, Carl, that we had to vote on you two times befor we would consider you a "Rookie" member!

You can attend all the lure shows you want but you said the prime words in your statement. BUYIN" & SELLIN"! What a relief it was to go to Rochester (My first Convention) and be surrounded with people that all knew more than me, would share that information freely and not try to get you to morgage the house to take something off their hands! As for our room trading, What a lay back social event! Everyone doesn't rush from room to room to be the first to get that rare, yellow with purple spots "StumpKnocker" before someone else does. If we see a nice Horton reel, we will tell Bill Muth or if it is an earky Shakespeare, we would tell Joe or Me or others that have an interest in something that you might think they can use. If it is South Bend, Len or Jim. Get my drift? That is what seperates us from the collecting masses. We all seem to be the type that don't care if the Jone's are ahead or not. Sure, some spend a lot of money for somethings nice but there isn't a grudge held just because Joe Blow got it and I didn't. I have never seen in any way an air of "I got More Then You" attiude amoung we as reel collectors. We all seem to be friends. That is what is so great about you guys and the members of ORCA as a whole. That is what our Convention is all about. Putting faces with nicknames and being able to act as one and maybe learn something for a few days a year and bring home memorys for the next 360.
"H""

reels4me · Post by **reels4me** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:35 pm

As they say "fagedda `bout it ! " Food for thought ? Yech ! I`m on a diet.

SWIM JIG · Post by **SWIM JIG** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:53 pm

harvy as we all know after years of voting the jury is stoll out < as yiu are still A ROOKIE member, as we think you are set in your ways ha ha ho, I do aggree, for lures, all mine are worth about 35cents, so I fish with them, that repainted stuff the experts have is worth my boat if I give differance! I have attempted for a long while to get GIBBY Gibson to join even send him applications with my personal endorsement, still wont join! I know he has some reels I would like, however he is gun shy to trade with me or even sell? HEY guys am I that rough? Most of you guys trade with me even LENNY does and hes tough! Carl if weather is permiting I will get you and len up about 06:30am time to trade! I wont have none of dem dar stumpy jummpers or wiz bangs I may have a few hooks! Speaking Of hooks those I do have , this is serious we no longer use tru turn hooks on our lures so we have for sale or trade (1 -1500 #1/0 hooks these are all bright! 2, 4500 #2/0 and 3, 2800#3/0 total of 8800 trueturn hooks at 7cents each cash or will trade for reels or other as long as it dont eat walk or talk or need to pay taxes on it! harvy be a wee bit easier on Carl he isnt as savy as you are! Col. M. Lorens aka SWIM JIG in snowy OHIO

cws/carl schultz · Post by **cws/carl schultz** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:43 am

harvey your statement reminded me about the kzoo auction that showed just what an eclectic bunch we are and i saw many people looking at others purchases and we all were so pleased one mans junk is another mans treasure phil was practiclly giddy buying a box of miselbachs[you know those reels he writes about and collects lol] that were rare or unusual they didnt say a thing to me but they did to phil then i got to buy a box of heddons&shakespeares that i went giddy on watching lorrie buy those big honkin reels and bill muth had his hand in the air if it said horton we all got excited when someone did good i am looking forward to texas but having been to 3 orca nationals all by driving to them its going to be intresting how to pack for a plane ride think anyone will notice if it takes 3 people to lift my carryon to the storage compartment[glad im sitting on the aisle would not want to be under that bag