Hopefully you guys are helpful as my home board. I thank you in advance for any help. I'm just trying to research what I have here..
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Antique Pflueger Williams?
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some smart folks will chime in after me.
The Williams is the handle and star drag. It's like an aftermarket Pflueger part that retrofits on Pflueger saltwater reels. The reel on your link does appear to be an Oceanic. Very nice reels, nickel-silver, and you can often find very nice ones for good prices. They also clean up very well.
Guessing the age, and someone will do better than me, here, late 20s to late 30s.
The Williams is the handle and star drag. It's like an aftermarket Pflueger part that retrofits on Pflueger saltwater reels. The reel on your link does appear to be an Oceanic. Very nice reels, nickel-silver, and you can often find very nice ones for good prices. They also clean up very well.
Guessing the age, and someone will do better than me, here, late 20s to late 30s.
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Oceanic
Howdy, your reel is a pretty common surf/boat reel made by Pflueger (Enterprise Manufacturing Co.) from the early 20s up until about the early or mid 40s. It is made of german silver and hard rubber (the black bands and handle knob).
The handle, also made by Pflueger, is not the original one it was sold with but was added on. The original did not have a star drag feature. 'Williams' does not refer to Ted, the baseball star, but to the inventor who helped Pflueger develop the handle. The 400 marking under the foot indicates it's size in the Oceanic line of reels (ranging from 150-smallest to 450-largest). It also related to the amount or length of a certain size linen line that it held. This was a common size designation system among manufacturers at the time.
Bruce is in the ballpark at under $100 for value and he's correct in that it fluctuates, depending on current buyers. You can find these pretty often on ebay, even with the add on handle.
Hope this helped!
The handle, also made by Pflueger, is not the original one it was sold with but was added on. The original did not have a star drag feature. 'Williams' does not refer to Ted, the baseball star, but to the inventor who helped Pflueger develop the handle. The 400 marking under the foot indicates it's size in the Oceanic line of reels (ranging from 150-smallest to 450-largest). It also related to the amount or length of a certain size linen line that it held. This was a common size designation system among manufacturers at the time.
Bruce is in the ballpark at under $100 for value and he's correct in that it fluctuates, depending on current buyers. You can find these pretty often on ebay, even with the add on handle.
Hope this helped!
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Pflueger Oceanic
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Yeah, Thanks! That helped a lot. I'll have to buff it out. It makes me think back, and wish I could have fished with my great grand-father. When I look at it I, wonder how many fish he caught with it.
I like this site too. Thanks!
Yeah, Thanks! That helped a lot. I'll have to buff it out. It makes me think back, and wish I could have fished with my great grand-father. When I look at it I, wonder how many fish he caught with it.
I like this site too. Thanks!
Cleaning
It would get a nice shine to it if you buffed it out because of the german silver but you might want to think about just cleaning if off a bit to remove old grease, grime, etc. There are different approaches for different tastes ie. shine it up or leave it with the 80 year old patina which many feel gives it character. If you ever use it to fish with, you'll find it is a pretty solid reel, although the freespool may bind every now and then when you throw it back in to engage the gears (they improved that in later reel designs). Also, you may want to pull the mono off and re-wind it back on if you happen to fight a big fish. The memory in the mono may compress to "split" the spool and push the flanges into the plates to freeze it.
Enjoy the reel and it's untold stories!
Enjoy the reel and it's untold stories!
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Thanks for stopping by and sharing. Personally I enjoy the old patina on these reels. I say just clean it up a bit, oil it, and do not polish it too much. Cool reel!
I love the video too! That is a great way to describe a reel. Much better than pictures!
http://orcaonline.org/images/pixel.gif?29D_pfluger.zip
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I love the video too! That is a great way to describe a reel. Much better than pictures!
http://orcaonline.org/images/pixel.gif?29D_pfluger.zip
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you might want to check some of our cleaning links - search the site using the word "cleaning"
the best thing to do is to disassemble the reel, remove all the old grease, clean it, rub it and reassemble it.
Here's the procedure I follow:
1) soak the parts in 1-part vinegar, 3-4 parts warm water, for up to 3 hours, rubbing with a toothbrush about every 15 minutes (I also do this on a hotplate to keep it warm).
2) next is a warm soapy water soak - again with the toothbrush
3) rinse and air dry
4) if you're going to polish anything, this is the time to do it. (The subject of polishing is an ongoing debate; although, that reel will polish up to look like a jewel. Simichrome is a good metal polish. I use Pol because I have access to it. If you do polish, you should also follow with another soapy water wash, rinse and air dry.)
5) rub every part with a guncloth
6) reassemble - lubricating is also optional; I recommend it if you tend to tinker with it a lot, and obviously if you plan to fish with it.
So here you go, folks, another chance ot chime in on cleaning.
Paul, the thin pink patina that will show up on nickel silver over the polish finish within the following couple of years is breathtaking.
the best thing to do is to disassemble the reel, remove all the old grease, clean it, rub it and reassemble it.
Here's the procedure I follow:
1) soak the parts in 1-part vinegar, 3-4 parts warm water, for up to 3 hours, rubbing with a toothbrush about every 15 minutes (I also do this on a hotplate to keep it warm).
2) next is a warm soapy water soak - again with the toothbrush
3) rinse and air dry
4) if you're going to polish anything, this is the time to do it. (The subject of polishing is an ongoing debate; although, that reel will polish up to look like a jewel. Simichrome is a good metal polish. I use Pol because I have access to it. If you do polish, you should also follow with another soapy water wash, rinse and air dry.)
5) rub every part with a guncloth
6) reassemble - lubricating is also optional; I recommend it if you tend to tinker with it a lot, and obviously if you plan to fish with it.
So here you go, folks, another chance ot chime in on cleaning.
Paul, the thin pink patina that will show up on nickel silver over the polish finish within the following couple of years is breathtaking.