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Harvey · Post by **Harvey** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:40 pm

This reel? Can't find any references anywhere about the number, date or anything. HELP! PLEASE!

cws/carl schultz · Post by **cws/carl schultz** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:21 pm

harvey dont know about it but i have the same reel

Post by **john elder** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:39 pm

I seem to recall someone on Joes clamoring for that very reel in box, about 2 months back...might post there with a "who wanted at..." and see if you can get some info thru the side door.

Dale Noll · Post by **Dale Noll** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:56 pm

Harvey: Have a reel 23037 named Uncle Sam foot marked 1918 model.
No other info. Has handle same shape but cream screw on nob.

Dale.

Jim Schottenham · Post by **Jim Schottenham** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:44 pm

Harvey,
John is right, I think it was Kyle Kuba that was looking for that reel and that box on Joe's a few weeks back. His info is in the ORCA directory.
Jim S

Alan Baracco · Post by **Alan Baracco** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:33 pm

Harvey,

Just from your picture, the reel shown looks to me to be an EXACT match to the South Bend "Hummer" put out in 1927. So, my speculation is that what is shown is the actual Shakespeare version of that reel. What do you say? Alan

Robyn Summerlin · Post by **Robyn Summerlin** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:05 pm

Alan, I think you nailed it. According to the talk Eric Jeska gave in Lansing, the 2 indicates the spool diameter of 1 1/2", the 30 indicates 100 yds. and the 33 is the reel model # for the Favorite, made from the 19-teens until the early 1930s when it became the Model 1733.

Dale, your Model 37 Uncle Sam should have a different foot. None of my S. reels with the type of foot shown on Harvey's reel has any marking on the foot.

Isn't giving Harvey info about Shakespeare a little like telling Noah about the flood?

Robyn

Dale Noll · Post by **Dale Noll** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:18 am

The Uncle Sam has the two pillar screwed-on type rod mount, and is not the same as Harvey's favorite. The foot is marked "Shakespeare Co , Kalamzoo, 100yds, Patented, 1918 Model." Posted info as I thought that number closeness might give a lead as to info for Harvey's reel ID.

Was not aware that numbers on these type reels were organized per above post. Does 37 always mean Design or Model 37 by Shakespeare, or South Bend - or something else like a date? Where can one find details for this S. numbering system? Is there an article in a past Reel News?

Anyone? Thanks to all.

Dale.

Harvey · Post by **Harvey** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:53 am

OK! Lets start from scrach! I am hunting that reel in the catalogues to find the age. I know what it is but want to know where that five digit number came from on a reel of that style. All I can find are either marked 1731 or 1733. (Don't ask me where the 1731 came from) And Don, there is a system to identify reels by the five digit numbers. The number "23" was given to the Uncle Sam, "17" to the Leader, "19" to the Marhoff, ect. Maybe someone will send you a copy of it and they can send me one too. I can't find mine! And Alan, You are correct. That reel is the same as the "Hummer" which was constructed from Shakespeare parts. There are some other trade reels of the same design also.
As for the stamped foot on this Favorite, I also have a #22037 Uncle Sam with the same foot. It has no model markings. It is a lesser quality reel from the earlier ones so my guess (without lookin' it up) is it is from the end of the line.
And I know nothing about floods nor the building of boats!
Thanks guys,
"H"

Reel Geezer · Post by **Reel Geezer** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:18 am

Dale: The number code system used by Shakespeare is explained in The Reel New, July 2002; complete with illustrations and a chart.

Harvey · Post by **Harvey** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:30 am

Thanks Phil, I forgot about that! Just shows ya where my mind is! And what are you doin' upthis early? Fish bitin"?
"H"

Dale Noll · Post by **Dale Noll** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:27 pm

Harvey: Don't have catalogues to look thru, but found a reference somebody in NFLCC may have available for SB info as follows:

" South Bend, Their Artificial Baits and Reels as reflected by the company's catalogues between 1912 and 1953 by Jim Bourdon. Copyright 1985, Nordica Drive, Croton-on-Hudson, New York 10520."

In addition, I searched the following 340 pg book of catalogues and Ads:
"Great Fishing Tackle Catalogues of the Golden Age, Samuel Melner,
Herman Kessler, Copyright 1972, Crown Publishers, Inc. New York"
Not one reference to Shakespeare reels in this book.

Both above Books found ref on pg 14 " Old Fishing Lures and Tackle by Carl F. Luckey. 2nd edition. Spring 1980."

Hope this may help!

Phil: I found the numbering system, Thanks again and again and...

Dale

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