cool-thumb USA Well Laurie Bingham, and steve Vernon, I heard some very nice things about you folks, also Saw your book you presented to him, and Laurie helped identifi a ball handled reel! Does the name Don Madson sound like someone you know? from Bloomfield NEW JERSY? And how come you people didnt get him to join ORCA? well he dosent do reel repair anymore as I just bought all his parts etc! a very nice person, and he may go to ALLENTOWN not too far from him, anyway He now has a application for ORCA, as he still has some nice reels and some nice proto type lures! Wait to mike wohlever sees them at Allentown , I too plan on being there! Steve thats a nice book you wrote, I will have to purchase one of them, lots of imfo in it! well over 700 lbs of parts and the storage compartment, and 1048.7 miles later what a trip! Did you know Don makes RODS? and some very nice ones, He hopes to make the trip west to the (RAT HOLE) to see how I am taking care of the parts etc. Your Ohio Conection on Lake ERIE col. M. lorens aka SWIM JIG