Sept. RN ?!?

reels4me,member · Post by **reels4me,member** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:10 pm

There must be a couple of unknown reel collectors in the bushes
reading mine, STILL don`t have it D--- It !

Dale Noll · Post by **Dale Noll** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:28 am

Still waiting in Tennessee too...HM...

clinton_beeler · Post by **clinton_beeler** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:24 am

Father got the July issue and I didn't. Must still be making the rounds at the post office. Still no Sept. issue either (starting to go into withdrawls).

Regards,
Clinton

Harvey · Post by **Harvey** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:26 pm

As one of the recent Presidents once said, "I Feel Your Pain"!
Here is what you can be looking for!

"H"

Post by **john elder** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:01 pm

I think some of us got lucky because Richard test drove another way to get the things to us, using a sprinkling of sacrificial lambs around the country... from what I can tell, the new way worked like a charm...even harvey got one with almost next day service. my guess is that things will improve markedly on the next round...eh, Richard?!

reelland · Post by **reelland** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:01 pm

Gee, I feel a little like a 16 year old virgin. The anticipation is gonna make me go nuts.

Bill L.

Richard Lodge · Post by **Richard Lodge** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:46 pm

Bill, I can't help with that virgin thing. You'll have to work that out yourself. But John is right about me sending a handful of the September issue out to a few members by 1st class mail, just to see how quickly it can get there. At this point I want to put the idea before the ORCA board. Switching from our current non-profit cheap rate mailing status to 1st class would be a considerable increase in the mailing cost (it would cost about $1.50 to mail the magazine 1st class to the 50 states). Would members be willing to pay a little more in dues to get the magazine delivered quickly and more reliably? Again, that's not my decision but would be up to the board to discuss and decide. But it is clear that would be the fastest route, although our current mailing status will improve, once I get my printing and mailing deadlines smoothed out.
So, to all our faithful Reel News readers who are still waiting for the September issue, please be patient. It should be there soon. And if you have any suggestions for Bill, send those directly to him.

Reel Geezer · Post by **Reel Geezer** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:01 pm

Richard, just so there is no misconception by the readers of this message board...

1. The question of increasing the dues to pay for first class mailing was asked of the membership in a questionaire several years ago. The membership was not interested at that time. They wanted to spend the money for more information in the Reel News. That's what we did. Maybe today they are interested in faster service. The magazine has no dated material in it, so it seems immaterial to me, just as long as all the members get it in a timely manner.

2. About 50% of the copies of the Reel News were mailed by first class mail using our 13 cents non-profit rate when they were mailed from Nampa, Idaho. All copies that are sorted as to mixed states, which is every place where there are not 10 members with the same first three digits of the zip code, had their copies sorted with the first class mail because they all went to different states. Many were delivered in 2-4 days. Other than two notable exceptions the Reel News was usually delivered from the sticks of Idaho to the members in less than a week. I'm not sure what they do with bulk mail in Massachusetts, but if it was taken to the post office at the same time as Harvey's was, something is wrong with your bulk mail section of your post office.

3. If the members want their Reel News faster with no dues increase, you could reduce the size of the magazine and cut costs in that manner and ORCA could probably stand the difference.

4. There is a very small minority of the membership who read this message board and are even aware of the mailing date of the Reel News. There are a few members who read this board that would complain even if they received their copy three days after it was mailed by first class mail, if someone else got their copy in two days.

5. I am no longer on the Board of Directors of ORCA, but I believe that we would lose many members and sign up fewer new members if we went to $40 a year for dues.

Phil White

Len Sawisch · Post by **Len Sawisch** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:53 pm

I have to take exception tp Phil on this one - I don't believe a Reel Talk post will insure that there is no misconception by the readers of this message board. To the contrary, many of us can misconceptualize almost anything posted here!

Aside from that, I pretty much agree with his conclusions.

reelland · Post by **reelland** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:27 pm

I agree completely with all Phil has listed. I really am not complaining nor do I feel the need to increase dues to receive it faster. But I am always very greatful when I do get it. Slower is sometimes better in these things I have been told. A little anticipation can be good and make you really appreciate conception when it comes. If only I would not hear from my friends how early they got it, my anticipation of conception would not be so lustly fueled. Therefore, I wouldn't "misconception" if others would not boast of about there's. Oops Richard, I am back at 16 years old.

Richard Lodge · Post by **Richard Lodge** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:06 pm

Bill: Methinks you've been around those high school kids too long.

Phil: Points taken. Forget I mentioned the idea of raising dues. I certainly don't want to scare away any current or future ORCA members and I DO want to make the magazine something people look forward to, enjoy and learn from.

SWIM JIG · Post by **SWIM JIG** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:38 pm

jester

USA Richard, your control address is this!My mag in the expensive envelpoe was recived in 2 days, I sent the card back, Now The FROGY JIGS, ie Ryan Costellos) same addres as mine and the grandsons mag has yet to be delivered! as of 8 SEPT 2005, When Phill mailed them from his PO generaly both mags arived the same day , some as early 2nd week of the month, and once in a while it took as long as 5 weeks! Its a known fact that Cleveland Ohio actualy Midderburgh Heights transfer distrbution PO is a bad PLACE! My mags have had mustard, coffeee stains gum, and other asorted non likable foods on them ! As for the PO in your area, I have had some most unsual experieces from sellers I have bought items from, once the envelope made its way to NEW MEXICO! I use priority mail sending to your COMMENWEALTH, ie STATE! seems to work ok. The bad side is , the po wants a increase in rates for higher wages, My other PO in Loudonville OHIO explained that to me! Until they get their rate raised start looking for delays, non delvered items, torn items and food on the items so far no mice droppings or cat or dog waste YET! Can you complain? yup! only about the same resualts as telling the kids not to eat all the ice cream! Your Ohio Conection ON LAKE ERIE! Col. M. Lorens aka SWIM JIG

orourke · Post by **orourke** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:51 pm

Reel News is here in Bronson, Michigan today Saturday 09.10.2005. So much anticipation and its read in an afternoon. Great issue but it still can't take the sting out of U of M losing to the Fighting Irish. My Dad and Brother have bragging rights for another year.

When the next issue?

Harvey · Post by **Harvey** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:57 pm

Richard,
I agree with Phil. I don't have a pony in this show but bulk mailing is the way to go. Raising the dues just for a couple days or a week earlier delivery isn't the answer. Heck, when I was a kid, you had to walk two miles to and from the post office if you wanted your mail everyday. Make us suffer!
Harvey
PS: Did I mention that it was up hill both directions?

Post by **john elder** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:43 pm

Harvey...that's a load of hockey...they didn't even have mail when you were a kid...they just carved it on trees

reels4me,member · Post by **reels4me,member** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:50 pm

Worth waiting for. Thanks Richard !

SWIM JIG · Post by **SWIM JIG** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:07 pm

cool-thumb USA Today was a mile stone! The REEL NEWS, ie Froogy jigs arrived this date 12sept2005 on a MONDAY- ie RYAN P COSTELLO Terra Lane Amherst OHIO 44001, No stains, tears , food droppings , gum smears, or other assorted non related Items! Mine in richards control experment in the expensive first class envelope came 10 days earlier! ( with 2 mags comming to the same address, that shows the differance in time! A long time ago Phil suggested I talk with my local PO, and find out where the distribution PO center was for Amherst! I did! I sugest to all of you that dont recive your reel news by the 4th week of the month its due, contact them and or contact your local PO. to see if and when a batch or bag was delivered! YUP! thats work on their part however its their job and what they are paid to do! WE have some resposibility to help ourselfs, dont hit the EDITOR! once its in the system its hard for anyone to get the PO to work! Phil was very fortunate that he had a excelent relationship with his Postmaster! He ask questions and ( my thoughts) demanded answeres and got them!) ( I am certain Richards News paper must send out mailed copies, HMMMMNNNN , posibly he can worry his PO a BIT? Members, remeber, the PO wants a raise, 23 cent post cards will become 25 cents in the very near future, a first class stamp will become ether 39 or 41 cents, its being irioned out what the public will stand for! Priority will go to $4.85 , I dont use anyother rates so I cannot advise on them! Your Ohio Conection on a 93 degree day on Lake ERIE COL. M. lorens aka SWIM JIG

Tony Malatesta · Post by **Tony Malatesta** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:23 pm

Hi Guys! Mine arrived here in ONT. Canada early last week. Great job. yay-banana Canadian

Bill Muth · Post by **Bill Muth** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:57 pm

I must live in a black hole or some evil vortex of the US mail. Jack gets the RN in Grand Rapids, Dave gets the RN in Bronson, here I sit in Battle Creek, I sit here in Battle Creek RN-less. Sigh.

Ed Clark · Post by **Ed Clark** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:19 am

I don't get this myself some times. I live right in the next state from Richard and I have not seen mine as yet!

Dale Noll · Post by **Dale Noll** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:56 pm

Reel News just arrived in Tennessee - Sept 13 4PM. Thanks to all who help to make this such a grand event!
Dale.

Bill Muth · Post by **Bill Muth** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:20 am

So, has anyone other me NOT received their RN yet?

clinton_beeler · Post by **clinton_beeler** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:54 am

Still no RN here either.

Clinton

charlie · Post by **charlie** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:07 am

Still hasn't made it to Northern California yet. Hope postman turns it loose today.

el Lawrence · Post by **el Lawrence** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:38 am

Came yesterday! ( 9/20/05) Yipeeeeee!

Almost better than a paycheck!

Sept. RN ?!?

Sept. RN ?!?

Waiting in Colorado

The truth is out

And so . . .

'Misconception'

just a bad postal system!

Its here!

IT CAME !

FROGGY JIGS araived 12 sept 2005!

RN

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