Rochester ??

Bruce Davis · Post by **Bruce Davis** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:26 am

Need help on this one found in Allentown 250 yd Improved Ocean King 186
this reel is GS From reading Old fishing stuff .com I think it is a Rochester Salt Water reel because of the rotating click tailplate my question is taking the reel apart as I see no visable screws, seems like you would unscrew the front plate but it don't move, thanks for any help.

Ed Clark · Post by **Ed Clark** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:12 am

Bruce,
I saw that reel at the show. If it is like the other Rochester reels I have had - you have to unscrew the little round plate below the oil cap. If it is the same - the spacer is threaded. Take that off and you can then access the inside.

Ed Clark

Bruce Davis · Post by **Bruce Davis** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:03 pm

ED
Thanks but no plate under the oil cap. On the crank side just a handle and jeweled end cap I just found in Vernons book that the right rim should unscrew but so far no good but thanks anyway.
Bruce

Reel Geezer · Post by **Reel Geezer** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:12 pm

Bruce: I also have one of those reels. Ed is correct, there should be a spacer (or a round lock nut) under the bearing cap on the tailplate. It unscrews with a spanner wrench. However, I have still not found the secret of how to get any further. My reel will not pull apart or unscrew after that part is removed.

The reel is an H. J. Frost Rochester Reel, and was available in the teens in their catalogs. I believe it to be scarce.

Bruce Davis · Post by **Bruce Davis** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:24 pm

Thanks Phil
I got that far and see the two holes for spanner but did not want to put to much pressure on it. In Steve Vernons book it says the Wollensak's pat should unscrew from internally threaded flanged annular headplate, but just don't seem to work anyway thanks again.
will try and give Steve a call tommorow

Steve · Post by **Steve** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:05 am

Bruce,
Here's the only Rochester I have, a 9X baitcaster. The threaded, click-bearing plate unscrews from the "internally threaded flanged annular headplate." No spanner wrenching required.

I saw your SW reel at Allentown, too. Dunno how it comes apart, but why not try Geezer's spanner wrench approach, then see what happens? Try unscrewing either or both sides by hand. With my reel, if you don't tighten the click plate enough, the plate starts unscrewing when you try to operate the click. Could be that your plate is just very tight.

Reel Geezer · Post by **Reel Geezer** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:28 am

I have taken my reel apart by going from the headplate end. However, I assume that the reel is supposed to come apart the same as the baitcasters as shown in Steve's photo. I tried everything I could to remove the tailplate in the same manner as you do with the baitcasters. I soaked the tailplate in everything I could think of and even consulted some mechanics to use their methods. I then built a couple of wooden blocks to grab the tailplate rim and I still couldn't get the thing to come off in the vice. After a month of trying, I gave up and put the reel back together then stuck it on my shelf.

Steve · Post by **Steve** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:51 am

Reverse thread? Left-handed spanner wrench? Password? How-to book on screwing ocean kings? Bruce, Geezer's shelf solution is looking pretty good.

Bruce Davis · Post by **Bruce Davis** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:01 am

Thanks guys
I am going to use the shelf solution until advised otherwise.
went to Cowtown NJ this am picked up #2 Pettengill nice to just take one screw off