I am happy to have found this bulletin board, and wonder if someone here can help me with some information. I purchased this reel recently for fishing use.
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I'd like to know any info that can be provided about the maker and possible history or vintage of this reel. I can supply internal pix (it is dual pawl) but there are no makers marks on the inside. The outside is marked Carter & Co, 11 South Molton St, London
Any info would be greatly appreciated, even just about Carter & Co - tackle maker or shop or ?. I am not a collector and don't have any book references available to check details. I'm in the dark, really like the reel, and just want some background on this fishing tool.
thanks in advance!
Carter & Co 4 1/4" Perfect replica - info needed
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Ron Mc
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Hi Steve,
Carter was essentially a sporting goods store in London.
I've seen old brass crank reels and Heaton alloy reels from the teens with their merchant's mark.
The most recent reference I could find on line was a used Michael Shepherd book stamped with their rubber stamp and the addy you posted, published 1954. I'm sure if you contact Stefan Duma, he can tell all you ever wanted to know about Carter Co. http://www.antiquetackleobserver.com/in ... t&Itemid=3
Your reel was made by J.W. Young & Sons, in Redditch, under contract to Allcock, and marked for Carter. Very good finish on your reel, and it looks leaded, but I can't quite tell from the photos. I'll estimate the manufacturing date as late 20s to mid-30s.
that's a big ol salmon reel, - do you have a rod that will fit the reel foot? And it's a neat collectable. I'd estimate value at $150, higher on the far side of the pond.
I have some smaller versions of the same reel:
3-3/8" Young perfect marked for MC Thornburn Maker Edinburgh - early 30s, also lead-finished
3-1/8" Young perfect marked for Allcock - finish on this reel is Japanned enamel, dating to the late 30s, and they're usually scratched like this
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Carter was essentially a sporting goods store in London.
I've seen old brass crank reels and Heaton alloy reels from the teens with their merchant's mark.
The most recent reference I could find on line was a used Michael Shepherd book stamped with their rubber stamp and the addy you posted, published 1954. I'm sure if you contact Stefan Duma, he can tell all you ever wanted to know about Carter Co. http://www.antiquetackleobserver.com/in ... t&Itemid=3
Your reel was made by J.W. Young & Sons, in Redditch, under contract to Allcock, and marked for Carter. Very good finish on your reel, and it looks leaded, but I can't quite tell from the photos. I'll estimate the manufacturing date as late 20s to mid-30s.
that's a big ol salmon reel, - do you have a rod that will fit the reel foot? And it's a neat collectable. I'd estimate value at $150, higher on the far side of the pond.
I have some smaller versions of the same reel:
3-3/8" Young perfect marked for MC Thornburn Maker Edinburgh - early 30s, also lead-finished
3-1/8" Young perfect marked for Allcock - finish on this reel is Japanned enamel, dating to the late 30s, and they're usually scratched like this
Allcocks stag logothanks for the very helpful information. I do have a rod that fits this reel, a standard Sage 8150, and it balances pefectly. The reel does not, however, fit the current standard of reel seats. I believe my reel is enameled. The fish don't care!
thanks again for the help. Your appraisal is exactly what I just paid for the reel on eBay, so glad to hear that I didn't get taken.
thanks again for the help. Your appraisal is exactly what I just paid for the reel on eBay, so glad to hear that I didn't get taken.
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Japanned enamel will date it to the late 30s - and if that is the finish, your reel looks very good. Even the best boxed reels I have with this finish have wear marks from the box. You'll enjoy fishing the reel - they're very nice.
Also wanted to show you this one. This is a Forrest & Sons of Kelso, the Tweed. 4" wide drum salmon perfect. Really wide brass foot on this thing - will only fit the big alloy sliding bands that are over the cork handle. But this reel has a patented adjustible drag from 1910. The drag will stop a UPS truck.
Also wanted to show you this one. This is a Forrest & Sons of Kelso, the Tweed. 4" wide drum salmon perfect. Really wide brass foot on this thing - will only fit the big alloy sliding bands that are over the cork handle. But this reel has a patented adjustible drag from 1910. The drag will stop a UPS truck.