333 Striper King

m3040c · Post by **m3040c** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:13 pm

Hello Everybody. I am new to this forum. I have just purchased a reel on ebay named 333 Striper King and I was wondering if anyone was familar with this reel. It is made in the USA, and is in new condition. About the size of a Penn Squidder.

The ebay item number is 7235062010.

Thank you in advance for any help on a bit of the history of this reel.

Post by **Brian F.** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:41 pm

I can't say I've seen one of these before but it looks a lot like a copy of a Penn reel. I've heard of Penn making trade reels during their early years but not aware of that occuring with this design or during the time period this reel appears from.

Wished I could've been more help.

m3040c · Post by **m3040c** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:04 am

Thanks for the quick reply Brain. This reel is like a Penn but it also has characteristics of an Ocean City. I think you may be right about this reel being a copy because the quality is not as good as a Penn. I basically buy a reel because I like it and for some reason I liked this reel, probably because of its condition and the fact that it was the only one on Ebay. To me that is a sign that the reel is not a easy find. I guess the fact that there are not many of them could also mean it failed in the market place because it was junk. Hopefully someone else has some input.

I am a Penn collector and fish with them exclusively.

Mike

m3040c · Post by **m3040c** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:04 am

Hello Brian,

I just re-read my reply to your reply. Excuse me for the mis-spelling of your name. I meant Brian not Brain. Sometimes my fingers and my brain do not work together.

Mike

Harvey · Post by **Harvey** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:11 am

Mike, He would rather be called "Brain"

m3040c · Post by **m3040c** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:59 pm

OK, Brain it is.

Actually I did not want to come across as a wise guy because my fingers screwed up.

Anyways, back to the 333 Striper King aka Penn Surfmaster, aka Ocean City, aka junk. Did I buy a "one off" ?

Post by **Brian F.** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:17 pm

Not sure what you mean by "one off" but I did not mean to imply Penns and Ocean Citys were junk either in quality or as a collectible. As you know, the Penns last forever and are as tough as nails. You'll also find that you have a lot of company in other Penn collectors here. Some of the older Ocean Citys were up there with the finest too. As for reels like this, they are collectible simply the moment someone wants them. No reason to feel like they are low on the food chain. They are unusual, in very nice shape and at the same time you have less competition! Well, maybe at least for a little while because I'm the same way

.

If you have not already joined ORCA, it's a great way to obtain information (through current and back issues of the Reel News) and discover the network of Penn collectors.

As for the typo, I'm always somewhat embarrassed when that happens because I usually have my brain misplaced at any particular moment.

Reelman · Post by **Reelman** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:24 pm

Here is a link to the above reel.

broken ... 62010&rd=1

Richard Lodge · Post by **Richard Lodge** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:18 pm

Nice looking reel, Mike, and I'm not even a fan of salt water reels. Looks like it's in excellent condition.

And don't worry about calling Brian "Brain." It could catch on!

By the way, you should see his distance casting talents. He showed his skills with a surf casting rod and reel at least year's ORCA convention in Texas. We were on a golf course and I swear he got a hole in one with one cast!
Richard

m3040c · Post by **m3040c** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:59 pm

I have been sold on ORCA, tha name sounds like a whale I have met in the past.

Thank you all for the responces. My Striper King will now sit on a shelf until dust makes it look as old as I think it is. As we speak, the reel is like new.
Way too clean for an old reel.

Anyways, I am a Ebay guy and a collector for most of my life. I am a Viet Nam era veteran that was lucky enough to be shipped to Europe to fight the cold war instead of the hot war in Nam.

I want to fish all the time but alas, I have many responsibilities and a wife.
Consequently my fishing time is limited. I do still fish the surf with a conventional reel to throw bait and a Penn 750ss for lures. I also fish the New York party boats with a Penn Jigmaster fitted to a Neptuna handle that I built up on a modern rod. I drive a 1984 Jeep CJ7. I guess I am an old fart at heart.

As soon as I figure out how to post a photo I want all your opinions on a sidewinder reel I recently purchased. I asked Phil White of Old Reels.com about it and he refered me to you. He also was not familar with the Striper King. Maybe someday I will buy something that someone has heard of.

As for my small reel collection, I own every green conventional that penn ever made (mint in their original boxes), an old Crack 300 spinner (great fishable condition), a K.P. Morrit Intrepid conventional (mint), a mint Garcia 600 conventional, some old Italian spinning reels from the 1950's (sold all my mitchell garcia spinners), many Penn squidders that have Newell components, a completely re-done penn Jigmaster(all newell parts, drags and high speed gears with a Nitro-fish handle), a couple of neptuna set ups, a crazy powder coated Gold Jigmaster to mount to a gold Neptuna handle (my next project) and some split bamboo rods with sidewinders (Good Luck Reels).

Ok, that is enough of me for now. I hope you guys do not get sick of listening to me. If you do just change the channel.

Until the next time,
Mike Cass

Reel Geezer · Post by **Reel Geezer** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:46 pm

I guess I am an old fart at heart.

Hey Mike - you may be an old fart at heart, but no where near a real an old fart as that Phil White guy who sent you here.

Glad to see you made it.

Post by **Brian F.** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:11 pm

Welcome Mike, and thanks for sharing what you collect. We have a separate forum to post stuff to share but since we're here, did you happen to say Neptuna? Well my friend, they will feel right at home here:

And those Italian reels you have are most certainly something others have heard of. In fact, if one of them is an Alcedo Oceanic, you will be a very popular guy! And I seem to know a few "sidewinder" (AKA Indiana-style) types here too.

Teal · Post by **Teal** » Mon May 01, 2006 6:12 am

Hi Mike,

Welcome to ORCA! That is one slick reel you got there, as mentioned reminiscent of both OC and Penn. Also reminiscent of True Temper from the late 1940s. As for buying a "one off," if you mean by that "one of a kind" then I doubt it. But the fact that you stumped both Phil "Encyclopedia" White and Brian "The Brain" Funai means you have something unusual to say the least. I think if you stump Steve "Newtonian" Vernon then Harvey has to give you a prize.

Welcome to ORCA!

Cheers,

Dr. Todd

m3040c · Post by **m3040c** » Mon May 01, 2006 8:43 am

Yup, this reel is a strange one. When I say "one off" I mean "one of a kind". I think the expression refers to assembly lines in the auto industry. You manufacture one and take it off the line for evaluation or something like that.

So I have one more expert , Steve "Newtonian" Vernon. He must be the "Bottom Line" of the list.

Wait untill the next one. I have a sidewinder that should also be a mystery. I have to photo it first and have it posted but I will give a hint. The reel is stamped with the manufacturer's name. It is stamped "Hellgate" and has aluminum sides mounted to a wood hub.

This forum it a great place, fun too.

Brian, those Neptuna's are great. The completed one with the Jigmaster is beautiful. That reel looks "clear coated". I wonder, were you the guy bidding against me on Ebay for those Neptuna's ? I always try to buy them below $50.00 but some money guy outbids me from time to time?

Have a great day,
Mike Cass

Post by **Brian F.** » Mon May 01, 2006 2:02 pm

m3040c wrote:... I wonder, were you the guy bidding against me on Ebay for those Neptuna's ? I always try to buy them below $50.00 but some money guy outbids me from time to time? ...

*oh, gosh*

I am faaar from being a money guy - but many times how I wish I were! But actually, I may have bought them from that same seller a few years ago.

Steve · Post by **Steve** » Tue May 02, 2006 4:06 pm

Looks like one of the innumerable 900-series Ocean City things to me. Something like a 950? Foot looks OC.

P.S. Got that nickname from constantly eating those fig-stuffed cookies. My bottom line has been dropping for years.

Teal · Post by **Teal** » Tue May 02, 2006 6:45 pm

Hi Steve,

Well, the figs may or may not be true, but I was thinking more along the lines of Pope (the poet not the Pontiff). Apologies to Newton:

Reels and reel patents lay hid in the night;
God said 'Let Vernon be' and all was light.

'Course, not long after a wag wrote:

It did not last: the devil, shouting 'Ho.
Let Harvey be' restored the status quo.

To wit,

Dr. Todd

Steve · Post by **Steve** » Wed May 03, 2006 8:57 am

Yes, Todd, you can't help but admire anyone capable of such mind-expanding profundities as:

"Why has not man a microscopic eye?
For this plain reason, man is not a fly."

Pope also
"Admir'd such wisdom in an earthly shape*
And chew'd a Newton as he shoe'd an ape."

* meaning spherical, of course

Twit,
Steve

m3040c · Post by **m3040c** » Wed May 03, 2006 10:06 am

I believe we are entering a zone of strange minds. I can not relate.

It is amazing how a strange fishing reel can open the minds of men.

Mike

Steve · Post by **Steve** » Wed May 03, 2006 10:47 am

Oops! Sorry, Mike. Now what was the question?

Oh, right. Is this close enough so that the Striper King might be a variant or a privately branded model of a later version?

Once questions are answered, we prefer not to let all that extra server space go to waste.

Harvey · Post by **Harvey** » Wed May 03, 2006 11:02 am

Pay no attention Mike,
They have been smokin' one of those "Roll-Ur-Own's"" again.

That "stuff" doesn't effect me but if my memory serves me correct, one of those sold on E-bay a few years ago and it was in a Sears box. In the last couple days, I have went thru all my picture files and can't find it. I would have thought that I would have kept it but maybe not. I will look some more.
And Merv! Ain't you got one of these? You got everything else!

By the way Steve, If I bring your books to Lake George, can we have a 'Book Signin'"?
"H"

Post by **Brian F.** » Wed May 03, 2006 1:15 pm

Striper King = Ocean City...looks good to me. Maybe someone replaced the knob with a Penn knob?

Dr. Rob · Post by **Dr. Rob** » Wed May 03, 2006 4:10 pm

K.P. Moritt, oh really...

Of the extremely few reels I have, one just so happens to be K.P Moritt spinning reel, called Tru-Spin or something. I found it at a junkyard, where the forklift traffic had paved right it into the ground. A little spit 'n' polish, good as new.

Never heard of since; never thought to ask... is that unusual somehow, or was K.P. Moritt a big company?

About Nep-Tunas... The guy y'all bought them from was probably my colleague, Mike Harrison in Florida. He came across a fellow whose dad was the distributor for Nep-Tuna, and had a crateload of them left over. So Mike bought them all. Don't know if he has any left.

m3040c · Post by **m3040c** » Thu May 04, 2006 12:41 am

You guys are a riot.

Anyways, I did think the Striper King was closer to a Ocean City than any other reel. The handle does look like a Penn but it is a bit shorter and fatter.
Sort of like me when compared to a basketball player. I guess eventually another one of these will pop out. I can not believe there is only one.

About the K.P. morrit. These reels are made in England. I think the company made mostly spinning reels. I actually do not collect spinners, I have a few but what I really like is salt water conventionals. The K.P. Morrit Intrepid Sea Streak is a different kind of conventional. The side plates are made from Nylon reinforced fiberglass, the contols on the reel are different than any other conventional reel (there is a rotating lever that puts the reel into its three different clicker modes) and a sliding button on the top of the right sideplate to engage and disengage the free spool. The frame is one piece stainless steel as is the handle except for the knob. This reel was distributed by South Bend in the United States. All external parts are stainless steel except for the spool and sideplates. It has a star drag under the handle and a cast control knob over the left sideplate spool bearing. The color of the composite parts are red. This particular reel is almost identical to a Penn Squidder in size. Funny thing about the deal I got on this reel. I bought two of them on Ebay in the same auction item, then I sold one for more than I paid for both. A personal home run. Wish I could do that with a Vom Hofe 6/0.

Well gentlemen, I am very busy this week. Saturday I leave for the Florida Keys. I am going to try to catch a Tarpon or two and some Mahi Mahi for the dinner table. I will be out of touch for a few days.

If some one would explain to me how to post pictures I will gladly do it.

Harvey · Post by **Harvey** » Thu May 04, 2006 7:40 am

Mike
Tarpon have been plentiful in Miami's Government cut and in the Keys around channel two and five. We saw a couple schools two weeks ago in the flats around Long Key while wading for Bones. Word at Bill Boyd’s bait shop last week was Ron Mallett had a client that caught a 190lb’er here at Port Everglades. Good luck and drop off a mess of Snapper when you pass my house.
harvey

PS: here is the thead that brought about all the ball bearing fuss!
http://reeltalk.orcaonline.org/viewtopi ... l+bearings

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