Martin-Bretton 804SR F/S (OK, reduced price!)

[JoeW]

First attempt at a pic post here! Forgive my mistakes. I'm actually actually an old timer collecting lures (older stuff only), NFLCC since the gazette was printed on brown paper!, with a small "accumulation" of some nice old brass reels. Anyhow, from time to time, I run into some old reels that I do want to pass along. Hope this is the place. I've visited here, but this is my first try at posting.

Pic, if it shows up, is of a Martin-Bretton 804SR. made in France. Well-made, smooth running, beautiful spin reel. Very minor use, EX condition! 1997 Lawson's has some other models at $65, so how about $45 (now $35!) shipped. Emails, please. Thanks for the look and hope to hear from you! Best---- JoeW

PS- What a nice friendly board this is! Still like the old lures, though. LOL!




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[JoeW]

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[hurdpete]

Well, now we know where Shakespeare had the 2062 made!

[FSREPAIR]

Before anyone jumps to any wrong conclusions about where the Shakespeare 2062 was made here are some facts:

1. The first 2062 EG came out in 1964 and was made in US by Shakespeare.

2. Bretton 804SR is a French reel which came out in 1971.

3. Looks can be deceiving so one should not assume the origin of any reel based on outward appearance.

Randy

[hurdpete]

Well, my swan dive off the cliff of wrong conclusions at least generated some information - thanks, Randy!

[snoekjaeger]

Some interesting bits and bytes on Bretton...
Their first model was the 602 (straight foot) introduced in 1952.
Later models 804 (1956), 400 (1959), 804S (1970) and 804 SR(1971) had a curved foot.

Besides the curving of the foot the rest of the body looked the same for all these reels (they did have different medallions/colourings/etc).

Now.. the Italians always assumed the Bretton 602 was a copy of their Zangi model. Some French collectors say there was some sort of joint-venture between Bretton (located in Cluses/France) and Zangi (Torino/Italy). There is not much distance between Cluses and Torina b.t.w., just cross the Alpes...

Very interesting is a patent granted in PARIS/FRANCE on may 5th 1952 (!) number 47473, patent granted to Aldo Genero and Carlo Bolle, 2 Italians ! The patent is about the body-design and the drawing shows a reel identical to the Zangi models (or Bretton models...).

First possib. : Zangi patented it's design in France to protect their models..., but why would Bretton wait 4 years to change the reelfoot design, or was the anti-revers button on top of the body different enough ?

Second possib.: Zangi patented the design and had Bretton pay to use it ?

Third possib. : Bretton had patented the design ?

Fourth possib. : someone else patented the design ?

Another fact : Zangi was taken over by Coptes in 1971, about the same period Bretton designed it's last 804 models (they did continue the produce and sell them for a few years longer).

Jean-Paul