Trivia question of the day

RAM · Post by **RAM** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:01 am

Why doesn't anyone but me use Reel Talk on the weekends? I know for a fact most of you are retired old goats (like me) who don't fish on weekends. To qoute Yogi "Nobody goes there anymore. Its too crowded!".

PS- I still need more answers to yesterday's trivia question. Wake up Steve! For gosh sakes, its 11:00 in the morning in PA! Bad Bob

Harvey · Post by **Harvey** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:21 am

To answer todays "TQOTD", most are not at work and on their time. Wifes have things for husbands to do. Take out the trash, mow the yard, wash the car, paint the house, so the windows, get the snow blower ready, clean out the gutters, rearrange the storage space, fix that darn drip in the sink, spend some time with the kids etc. From what I hear, if you have a wife, they can always find something to take up your time instead of you setting around playing on the computer. That is done when you are at work. It is easy to hide behind a stack of paper and un-attended work while you act like you are busy and look at "Reel Talk". Staring out the window or at the cieling will get you in trouble with the boss. It is guys like us, Bob, that have the writing worn off the Delete and the Enter buttons on our home computer.
"H"

RAM · Post by **RAM** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:14 pm

Harv-Don't tell me you still work! I thought all true fishermen and reel bums like me quit working years ago. There is always a way to weasel out of the work doldrums. You just have to be innnovative. To retire early requires, as examples: 1. bachelorhood 2. divorce with no support payments 3. an undestanding wife 4. lucrative hourly pay as a consultant 5. a big inheritance 6. a working wife with a high paying job 7. be a wizard at investing 8. learn to play big league poker 9. become a professional bass fisherman 10. retire early on a government pension...The list could go on.
Now I'm too old to fish every day, but I NEVER go on Saturday or do anything else I don't want to on weekends (includes religious services which, for the poor souls who work, should by decree only be held on odd Sundays (or Saturdays) when it is raining and NEVER on opening day of fishing or dove season or when the blue wing olives are hatching or during steelhead runs, etc. Exceptions: Easter, First day of Ramadan or Yom Kippur when formal services are optional)
As Satchmo (I think) said: Don't look back. Something might be gainin' on you! Bad Bob

Harvey · Post by **Harvey** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:42 pm

Well, I am lucky enough to be retired, without a wife, with no support payments, have enough trouble investing in enough stuff to fill the fridge, the gas tank on my truck and the other small things that make life easier. And unlucky enough to try to do it on SSI. I always thought that the first day on fishing and dove season were more important than Easter, First day of Ramadan, Yom Kippur, X-mas or your birthday unless it was your eighteenth or twenty first. After all, votin' and drinkin' should a mans main priority .
And I always thought Sachel Paige said that!
I think Satchmo may have said something like "Whap - A - Yhap - Pa - Whap -Pa - Whap, YAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Reel Geezer · Post by **Reel Geezer** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:06 pm

Well Bob, I usually never fish on weekends, but yesterday the wind blew to 25 MPH all day...

Today, the rubber reel lady took off early to walk in a 5K ladies only race in Boise (14,000 women from all over the country walked or ran). She took 83rd among walkers overall, and 3rd in her age group - which I won't reveal.

Bert and I took off to the Snake River about the time you posted, and we had a fairly good day, but no smallmouth over 14". However, the motor battery was dead, and I finally started the boat with the trolling motor battery. Then around noon when I was going to quit, I pulled to rope to raise my trolling motor and the rope snapped. I tumbled backward in the boat, almost fell out again, but landed on the boat's floor. I broke a pair of scissors in half and wrenched my knee, but lived through it. I don't know how I missed breaking a rod.

I got home about 1 PM, and repaired the motor rope and charged the battery (but it's gone bad). I guess I should have stayed home and answered your question in the morning. I'd have been better off.

SWIM JIG · Post by **SWIM JIG** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:35 pm

cool-thumb

jump usa, Phil, when you replace the battery, get one of these new jell bats. they been out about 4 years now, look like 6 dry cells howver they take a real workout! also I have been useing the largest 12 volt wet cell deep cycle bat. I can find, my boat takes 2 of them and I have a GUEST switch, can run one or both, those old batts didnt last over one good season, now I get 3 seasons and still they are working, I am craking 135 hp volvo IO and enough electronics to cause most electricians to change their line of WORK! I get my bateries from TRACTOR SUPPLY they last longer than the run of the mill stuf from other places like sears, or parts houses. You best be carefull taking all those falls, cause like me those bones snap like glass after you close in on 70 years young! Your antique on Lake ERIE Col. Milton Lorens aka SWIM JIG

m3040c · Post by **m3040c** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:46 am

You guys are making me wonder about my life. I am still working, still married, had to sell my boat to send my kids to college and still remodeling whenever my wife gets a new idea. My wife is the idea person and I am the strain your back person, basically her brain and my back. I asked her once when we will be done with all this work, her responce was, "We are done when we are dead". Needless to say, I do not ask anymore.

I have been contemplating changing my name and going to Costa Rica. How bad could that be

Steve · Post by **Steve** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:00 am

http://www.costaricamap.com/ing/avjfish.html

Post by **john elder** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:32 am

Poor Bob is lonely as can be,
The weekend comes,
No one to see,
His Words of Wisdom,
So thinks He.

Me thinks it's not at all that way,
It's just we've nothing much to say,
The Liar's Bench is full but hey,
we save our gems for Mike's Workday.

RAM · Post by **RAM** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:01 am

To John Elder: "The Bard of Rancho Santa Fe" Nice verse!

To The Geezer: You just added two more items to my list of reasons to not fish from a boat-dead batteries and broken crank cords. Could also add broken scissors and wrenched knees, 25 mph winds, and who knows how cold it must have been. It is snowing everywhere else in the Rockies. Are you in the Banana Belt in Idaho?

To Harv: It is refreshing to see that one man has his priorities in order! Keep fishin' and findin' them ole reels and hope SSI doesn't run out of money before you run out of time!

To M3040C (mystery man): When you get to Costa Rica tell me how it's working out and if there is enough room for some more of us!

Ciao and sympathy to all weekend "Honey Do-ers", Bad Bob

m3040c · Post by **m3040c** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:42 am

First things first---Hello Steve---Thanks for the map of Costa Rica with the descriptions of the fishing. At first I had a good laugh, then I clicked the link and serious bag packing thoughts came to my head. I have to look into real estate there. I thought the Florida Keys was nervanna but Costa Rica has become a new goal. If I ever get to get there, I will make a full report. At this point in my life I have other priorities, as a matter a fact, life has always had other priorities. I am young (only 58 years old) and retirement is not in my considerations yet. But time brings all things to a front burner and retirement will happen someday. Until that time Costa Rice is, rather than a retirement goal, an escape goal. If escape becomes necessary, I'll be there.

Second things second--Hello John--your talent with poetic verse is funny. The bits and pieces I have observed about you tell me that special talents are a big part of you. If I ever get a place in Costa Rica (stranger things have happened), you have an open invitation.

and then comes third---Hello Bad Bob---what kind of name is Bad Bob?
I am not a mystery. I have been around here for a few months. I find the people here at ORCA to be interesting and friendly, like "Family Friendly". I love this place.
A place like Costa Rica always has room for all. The first thing done in Costa Rica is the removal of the front door and the installation of a swinging screen.

last but not least---Hi Harvey---from my casual observations I see you, unmarried, without child support. I see a man worried only about food and gasoline living in the Florida Keys. You are there, nervanna is within your reach. You have arrived. BRAVO...!

To sum this up. My wife is great, she works harder than me and I would never leave her. She is an enhancement in my life and basically saved me from a life of drunkin stupor. But, there is nothing wrong with an occational dream, an escape. The transition of dream to reality can sometimes be a slender line that only needs the actual deed to make it happen. Procrastination is the enemy and a good wife is the enemy of procrastination.

THIS PLACE IS GREAT. WHERE ELSE WOULD ANYONE PAY ATTENTION TO ALL MY BABBLE

Steve · Post by **Steve** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:24 am

Mike, when the time comes and your wife balks at the thought of becoming a "fishing widow" in Central America, show her there are plenty of other things to do there: http://www.costaricamap.com/ing/avjbungee.html

Jack Bright · Post by **Jack Bright** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 12:51 pm

Wouldn`t that be great ? Fish our hearts out, eat and live like Kings. . . Do it every two-three years, or ? Just dreaming I guess.

m3040c · Post by **m3040c** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:22 pm

Well guys, dreaming it is for now. Dreaming is a good thing.

As for bungee jumping, well, I showed that page to my wife, the responce was a giggle and turning her back to leave the room. My wife is not a "ROUGHIN IT" kind of person. As a matter of fact, her definition of "ROUGHIN IT" is "Black and White TV".

Weel, there are supposed to be some heavy storms coming to Long Island tonigh. I have to go Batton Down the Hatches.

Have a good day, all.

RAM · Post by **RAM** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:40 pm

m3040c-The reason I sign off "Bad Bob": 1. It gives a hint that my first name is Bob (most of these reel nuts know the other name) 2. Self deprecation saves others the effort of thinking up insults. You might guess from my posts that I stir up controversy with ease. Too much tranquility can be a bad thing!

Also just a note to say that you and other admitted dreamers should read my little book "Willow Creek", which was written just for souls like you who truly believe there is still magic out there. Keep dreamin'! Bad Bob

m3040c · Post by **m3040c** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:33 pm

Hello Bob,

Controversy is what gets to the bottom of things. We need it as long as it is not done for its own sake.

I would read your book. How do I get it?

Keep Dreaming.

Post by **Brian F.** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:17 pm

Ordering info or Bob's book here

Reel Geezer · Post by **Reel Geezer** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:45 am

To The Geezer: You just added two more items to my list of reasons to not fish from a boat-dead batteries and broken crank cords. Could also add broken scissors and wrenched knees, 25 mph winds, and who knows how cold it must have been. It is snowing everywhere else in the Rockies. Are you in the Banana Belt in Idaho?

Bab Bob: One good reason to fish from a boat - 30 miles of untouched water that is inaccessable otherwise. This outweighs all your list of reasons.

No 25 MPH winds while I was fishing... that was the reason I didn't fish on Friday. Saturday: clear, calm and 68 degrees. Yes, we are in the banana belt of Idaho. Currently: clear, calm, 41 degrees and dark out, but I'll be on the river this afternoon when it's 75 degrees.

Post by **john elder** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:40 pm

Brian...thanks for the info...I've just ordered my copy of the book and talked with Bob

ALERT! MINE WAS #19...THERE ARE ONLY 18 COPIES OF THE BOOK LEFT! IF YOU WANT ONE, BETTER GIT ER DUN!

Ron Mc · Post by **Ron Mc** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:54 pm

RAM wrote:Why doesn't anyone but me use Reel Talk on the weekends? I know for a fact most of you are retired old goats (like me) who don't fish on weekends.

speak for yourself - I caught 70 spotted bass yesterday.

RAM · Post by **RAM** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:10 pm

Ron-Incredible bass stream. Does the public get to fish that water, and if so, whyaren't there masses of bass fishermen lined up along the creek? If there was a creek like that here the local rednecks would have beat the banks clean and taken home all the fish! Weekends would have been so crowded you would have gone to a football game to get some solitude. Magic water you got there. Last time I caught 70 spotted bass ?...Never did catch 70! Bad bob

Ron Mc · Post by **Ron Mc** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:44 pm

well, you can only fish it if you can float in, and there's not enough water to do that this summer.
this county removed public right of way from every county road that crosses the river, so there's no place to park. There's a state right of way at every bridge, but the landowners have managed to fence that in...
There are 7 prime crossings affected, and I've been fishing them for 30 years.
So I hunted down a landowner - a rancher. He works the land. He lives in the basse block house his grandfather built, and his great-great grandfather fought the Comanchees for this land. He's from here.
He gave me his card and I have pledged to myself not to call him more than twice/year.
Yesterday, we had to get out of the wind, so I played my trump card.
We go through his gate and park off the road (so others looking for a place to park won't see us) - right at the river. I can hike his bank, and every time, I go way down river to start where I left off last time.
The cold front moved the spotted bass from the deepest holes up into the deeper riffles.
I eased down the flagstone edges, roll cast, swing, lift the rod tip.
yep, 70 river bass for the day - nothing large - the 12"er got away...
but what a blessed day on a short, light cane rod. Texas brook trout.
My benefactor needs .30 rain for his fall oats. I've been praying for him.

(a few years ago, at a crossing upriver from here - fishing with my dad - I had a 100+ spot & smallie day. That was a special year - a big flood in the spring had washed trophy fish from the private game ranch creeks into the public river. Since then, the rednecks have picked that oxbow clean. I can still find fish in the chutes, though. Come to think of it, it's the next county upriver.)

Ron Mc · Post by **Ron Mc** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:53 am

Charlie's fall oats got .30" rain last night (I checked Intellicast historic map) - I could see the lightning in the distance. There was even a 10 cfs spike in the river (USGS).

RAM · Post by **RAM** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:53 am

Ron Mc-That river of yours has a color (gray-blue) that looks the same as glacial streams in the Canadian Rockies. Now we all know that is not the case there in the Texas hillcountry. Am I correct in assuming it is due to spring water discharge from a certain limestone terrain that has suspended clay particles? (Inquiring geohydrologists want to know!).

Also, how could .3" of rain possibly increase discharge by 10cfs? Here in our limestone country .3" of rain has nearly zero impact on runoff. Did you mean 3"? Bad Bob

PS-Went to my spring creek yesterday and lost twelve bass fishing a frog pattern rubber bug. Never had that happen before. Seems they were just sucking in the fly gently rather than striking it, so my old reflexes just weren't good enough I guess. Mostly also due to the fact I fish barbless, so I lose most of my fish anyhow. Still, not landing even one of twelve! Incompetence (fortunately not incontenence as I was wearing waders!).

Ron Mc · Post by **Ron Mc** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:05 am

it rained a bit more upriver - a bit over 1". In fact, the rain band looked like it was painted over the upper river.

clay? much of our river bottom is rutted dolomite - trickly wading - where the softer strata washed away.

the color we have this year is eutrophia. Flows have generally been so low that the nitrogen can't wash away. Then add the turbidity from cattle and farming (mostly fodder for ranching around here)

On average, I bet there's a spring every 50 yards in this river. Last weekend, I was fishing a spring mouth in the cypress roots that I could hear, but couldn't see.

this is just above the convergence of the forks, and the turbidity here is silt I kicked up coming back down to take Lee's photo.

real men wear pink visors when their wife sells fru-frus.

here's the headwater springs

no fishing allowed here for for the sake of our A-strain endemic spotted bass (it's ok, I know a crossing downriver...).
There's also Johnson creek, which is almost as large as the two forks. No public access, and it drives me crazy to drive across those bridges and see that water - a deep rocky notch tunneled by cypress.

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