can you ID this reel?
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Penobscot Bill
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can you ID this reel?
just picked up an old baitcaster, but can't find any info in any of my books-who made it and when? approximate value? on face plate is: BRONZHAS JEWELED-on long foot is: 80-jeweled bearing caps
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Hi,
I think the reel reads "BRONZBAS" and it is an 80-yard jeweled Montague NLW baitcaster. Nice reel.
Contact Jim Garrett if you want to sell, he is always looking for Montague trade reels.
Cheers,
Dr. Todd
I think the reel reads "BRONZBAS" and it is an 80-yard jeweled Montague NLW baitcaster. Nice reel.
Contact Jim Garrett if you want to sell, he is always looking for Montague trade reels.
Cheers,
Dr. Todd
I also have a similar reel. Beautiful Agate jewels - clear/milky color. Have been attempting to ID reel also. Cannot get positive comparison with Montague. More dimensions fit Pflueger.
The two top Pillars measure 0.165/.170" dia. The twin foot pillars measure 0.200". The Arbor dia is .355". The Crank screw does not have the Montague curved flange, but is tapered in a near straight edge bevel pattern. Headplate rim has two bands of knurles. The edge of the headplate is nicely rounded, not beveled nor sharp. Tailplate stamped STEEL PIVOTS.
Top pillars for several types of Pfluegers fit the .170" dia. This includes Supremes etc. Another comparison is a Pflueger Ideal, which is shown in K White 223-0536. I measured this reel both top and foot pillars are identical to the Bronzbas. Inside width dimension is 1.875" with 0.355" dia arbor. The Pflueger Ideal is more narrow at 1.645" with an arbor dia of 0.320". Narrow reels almost always have smaller dia arbors. The Ideal also has two headplate knurled rings.
Another reel shown in K White 215-1930 has all the same dimensions as the Bronzbas including the STEEL PIVOT and the rounded headplate. However, not jeweled. This reel is named Silver Lake and identified as Montague mfg.
I do not have many vintage Pfluegers to compare more data. Maybe some Pflueger collectors can help here. If the K White photo is correctly identified as a Pflueger, I would ID this reel as Pflueger mfg.
If the name Bronzbas can be connected to a mfg, it would be a major help toward positive verification.
Dale
The two top Pillars measure 0.165/.170" dia. The twin foot pillars measure 0.200". The Arbor dia is .355". The Crank screw does not have the Montague curved flange, but is tapered in a near straight edge bevel pattern. Headplate rim has two bands of knurles. The edge of the headplate is nicely rounded, not beveled nor sharp. Tailplate stamped STEEL PIVOTS.
Top pillars for several types of Pfluegers fit the .170" dia. This includes Supremes etc. Another comparison is a Pflueger Ideal, which is shown in K White 223-0536. I measured this reel both top and foot pillars are identical to the Bronzbas. Inside width dimension is 1.875" with 0.355" dia arbor. The Pflueger Ideal is more narrow at 1.645" with an arbor dia of 0.320". Narrow reels almost always have smaller dia arbors. The Ideal also has two headplate knurled rings.
Another reel shown in K White 215-1930 has all the same dimensions as the Bronzbas including the STEEL PIVOT and the rounded headplate. However, not jeweled. This reel is named Silver Lake and identified as Montague mfg.
I do not have many vintage Pfluegers to compare more data. Maybe some Pflueger collectors can help here. If the K White photo is correctly identified as a Pflueger, I would ID this reel as Pflueger mfg.
If the name Bronzbas can be connected to a mfg, it would be a major help toward positive verification.
Dale
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about that Bronzbas reel---
I'll shoot some photos of this little gem and will try to post them here tomorrow-when I first picked it up in my hand, I thought Pflueger-handle shape, long foot, two nicely knurled rings, outstanding reddish jeweled bearing caps, but that was just my first (uninformed) opinion-I'm glad this reel has stirred some interest, which I hope will lead to some answers for all of us-my reel has no writing on the back plate, BRONZBAS JEWELED on the face plate, and 80 on the two screw foot-by the way, where did the maker get that name, BRONZBAS? doesn't exactly roll off your tongue
Phil,
Great info re STEEL PIVOTS I rechecked these reels discussed herein; and, all 3 tailplates are marked STEEL PIVOTS of the same size and type as far as my eye can detect. I also checked several other reels for the same size marking and found two WINNER reels, three MASCOT reels, and even a PROFESSIONAL with the STEEL PIVOTS marking. (All these were also Jeweled reels.)
These reels also have the same exact Pillar diameters. I can find no Pfluegers in my collection with STEEL PIVOTS tailplate marking. So, it seems that all these reels were indeed Montague mfg.
This info is another benchmark aide for Montague reel identification along with dimensional data when the bent ear foot design is absent.
Dale
PS: Anyone out there have any Pflueger reels marked STEEL PIVOTS on the tailplate?
Great info re STEEL PIVOTS I rechecked these reels discussed herein; and, all 3 tailplates are marked STEEL PIVOTS of the same size and type as far as my eye can detect. I also checked several other reels for the same size marking and found two WINNER reels, three MASCOT reels, and even a PROFESSIONAL with the STEEL PIVOTS marking. (All these were also Jeweled reels.)
These reels also have the same exact Pillar diameters. I can find no Pfluegers in my collection with STEEL PIVOTS tailplate marking. So, it seems that all these reels were indeed Montague mfg.
This info is another benchmark aide for Montague reel identification along with dimensional data when the bent ear foot design is absent.
Dale
PS: Anyone out there have any Pflueger reels marked STEEL PIVOTS on the tailplate?
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BRONZBAS pictures
I can send you photos if interested-email me directly at -I leave early tomorrow morning for a fishing trip to northern Maine
Bill
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Pflueger? Ideal
Bill-The Ideal is a trade reel name attributed to Pflueger, but never trademarked. That it is a Pflueger is unproven. Listed as such in Craig Barber's article on Pflueger reel trademarks p. 13, Summer 1998. This name never appears in a Pflueger catalog. I have not checked White but will.
Dress warm for that trip to Northern Maine since later this week it will be in the mid 30s in Middle Tennessee! Can guess it may snow there! Bad Bob
Dress warm for that trip to Northern Maine since later this week it will be in the mid 30s in Middle Tennessee! Can guess it may snow there! Bad Bob