pflueger supreme question
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jonny mack
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pflueger supreme question
was the first edition of the douglas patent supreme a 1573 model and what are the patent dates can a pflueger expert give me a history lesson on the early supreme and what is the value of one is. thanks
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Warren Platt
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Pflueger Supreme
Jonny,
The first models were not marked as to model number, but they were referred to as the 1573 model. Only marked "Pat. Applied for" on the lower part of the face plate. The serial number was placed on the lower part of the palm plate.
The first models were not marked as to model number, but they were referred to as the 1573 model. Only marked "Pat. Applied for" on the lower part of the face plate. The serial number was placed on the lower part of the palm plate.
Yo Johnny Mack! Good news is I Just recently published "History of the Pflueger Supreme Fishing Reel". It contains all (and probably more) than you need to know about these reels. Bad news is it is temporarly out of print. More good news-It will soon be in 2nd printing. Contact Dr. Todd Larson at:
for more info.
No values in the book, but your reel, assuming it is intact (no missing parts) and not too beat up, is worth a minimum of $250.00. Bad Bob (also known by several other aliases)
for more info.
No values in the book, but your reel, assuming it is intact (no missing parts) and not too beat up, is worth a minimum of $250.00. Bad Bob (also known by several other aliases)
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Tom @ Buzzard Bluff
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New treasure from my 'stash of trash'
My, my. It's a strange world. Came to the board seeking info yesterday and found it had been too long for the site to admit I still exist, but Brian has set that right and I just have to share my tale. Even more bizarre was that this thread was the one that greeted me when I finally was able to get on.
Below is my tale as written for a friend who triggered it by sending a site containing Pflueger dates of manufacture.
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Dano,
I may have told you the tale of the origin of the Pflueger Supreme I have recently. In a nutshell I inherited it from my father who bought it from Carsey Miller, the husband of a cousin who was also the distribution agent for, IIRC, Paramount Studios in Texas & the Southwest. Or Carsey may well have given it to him for all I recall. The original box has a factory repaired sticker glued on the end opposite the model data. The original suede leatherette bag, (starting to lose its' 'suede') wrench and 'Cub' auxiliary handle are still in the box with the instructions. Everything is there that it originally came with except for the little vial of Pflueger reel oil, a disposable. The cork arbor is on the reel. The reel is in very good condition. It has signs of having been used-----an honest patina of fishing useage. It has the 'bowling pin' spacers similar to the original Pflueger flyreels on the bottom. It is the model 1573 of 1935 according to the chart you forwarded. It's 4 years older than I am! I recently cleaned it and oiled it and it's ready to go fishing altho it now has a place of honor in a display case. The 'innards' showed no signs of either wear or the ravages of time, needing only the removal of old lubricants and the replacement of same to appear as new.
Thanks Bud! Sure happy to be able to date it since it's even older than I thought. Tom
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Dano,
After sending the last post I took another look at the Pflueger site you sent. Then I got up and brought the reel and box w/contents in here to where I could look at them under the magnifying light. There is no model # or anything else except the name on the reel itself so I'm assuming it's the right box and instruction sheet. The installation instructions for the 'Cub' drag handle were folded up inside the reel instruction sheet. But from reading the instructions I discovered that there was originally a container of grease included also which, like the 'Speede' oil, is missing. There was a spare domed nut for holding the handle on (and the special lock-washer for the Cub handle also) as well as a spare screw. The reel matches all of the pictures of the one shown in both pics and the illustrated parts breakdown on the Model 1573 instruction sheet in the 1573 box so I think it's 'right' even tho the reel itself isn't stamped with a # that I can find.
Carsey Miller was something of a contradiction in the little rural Texas community near Dallas in which I grew up. He was an urbane, educated man who spent a lot of time 'on the road' promoting motion pictures. He really had few local friends that I can recall, my Dad being the only exception to my knowledge. He might well have had friends in other places and probably did, but like Sidney Latham, married to another cousin (I now find myself wondering if Sid & Carsey's wives were sisters) and H. L. Hunt's legal advisor and attorney, he was something of an enigma. It was only after Sid was long gone and I was already living in Arkansas that I discovered he had been a member of the group immortalized in Ed Zerns' 'Exit Laughing' column on the final pages of Outdoor Life' for years as the "Madison Avenue Rod, Gun, Bloody Mary and Labrador Retriever Benevolent Society' along with such luminaries as A. J. McClane, Lee Wolfe, Charlie Ritz and others whose name you would instantly recognize if only I could recall them. What a wonderful small community I grew up in and I had no idea of the scope of it as a child! Tom
Below is my tale as written for a friend who triggered it by sending a site containing Pflueger dates of manufacture.
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Dano,
I may have told you the tale of the origin of the Pflueger Supreme I have recently. In a nutshell I inherited it from my father who bought it from Carsey Miller, the husband of a cousin who was also the distribution agent for, IIRC, Paramount Studios in Texas & the Southwest. Or Carsey may well have given it to him for all I recall. The original box has a factory repaired sticker glued on the end opposite the model data. The original suede leatherette bag, (starting to lose its' 'suede') wrench and 'Cub' auxiliary handle are still in the box with the instructions. Everything is there that it originally came with except for the little vial of Pflueger reel oil, a disposable. The cork arbor is on the reel. The reel is in very good condition. It has signs of having been used-----an honest patina of fishing useage. It has the 'bowling pin' spacers similar to the original Pflueger flyreels on the bottom. It is the model 1573 of 1935 according to the chart you forwarded. It's 4 years older than I am! I recently cleaned it and oiled it and it's ready to go fishing altho it now has a place of honor in a display case. The 'innards' showed no signs of either wear or the ravages of time, needing only the removal of old lubricants and the replacement of same to appear as new.
Thanks Bud! Sure happy to be able to date it since it's even older than I thought. Tom
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Dano,
After sending the last post I took another look at the Pflueger site you sent. Then I got up and brought the reel and box w/contents in here to where I could look at them under the magnifying light. There is no model # or anything else except the name on the reel itself so I'm assuming it's the right box and instruction sheet. The installation instructions for the 'Cub' drag handle were folded up inside the reel instruction sheet. But from reading the instructions I discovered that there was originally a container of grease included also which, like the 'Speede' oil, is missing. There was a spare domed nut for holding the handle on (and the special lock-washer for the Cub handle also) as well as a spare screw. The reel matches all of the pictures of the one shown in both pics and the illustrated parts breakdown on the Model 1573 instruction sheet in the 1573 box so I think it's 'right' even tho the reel itself isn't stamped with a # that I can find.
Carsey Miller was something of a contradiction in the little rural Texas community near Dallas in which I grew up. He was an urbane, educated man who spent a lot of time 'on the road' promoting motion pictures. He really had few local friends that I can recall, my Dad being the only exception to my knowledge. He might well have had friends in other places and probably did, but like Sidney Latham, married to another cousin (I now find myself wondering if Sid & Carsey's wives were sisters) and H. L. Hunt's legal advisor and attorney, he was something of an enigma. It was only after Sid was long gone and I was already living in Arkansas that I discovered he had been a member of the group immortalized in Ed Zerns' 'Exit Laughing' column on the final pages of Outdoor Life' for years as the "Madison Avenue Rod, Gun, Bloody Mary and Labrador Retriever Benevolent Society' along with such luminaries as A. J. McClane, Lee Wolfe, Charlie Ritz and others whose name you would instantly recognize if only I could recall them. What a wonderful small community I grew up in and I had no idea of the scope of it as a child! Tom