NAME THOSE REELS !!!!!

ReelMan1988 · Post by **ReelMan1988** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:46 am

I've recenlty took a Picture of most of our Big Game Reels. Lets see if your really good at telling what a reel is by just looking at them. There's a total of 20 Black Reels and 7 Gold Reels. Here's a Pic of them.

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:27 pm

Nice reel collection. Thanks for sharing.

I own a few Penn Reels.

I even have a first year Penn 115.

I think I posted pictures of it on this forum as a mother of a Penn reel.

m3040c · Post by **m3040c** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:11 pm

Very nice collection of big game stuff. I especially like the cradle reels.

Hello Nemo,

I checked back on your post about the Mother of a Penn, that Penn 115 you have is a 1936 or 37. In 1938 the catalog still showed that handle but by 1938, Penn was changing that small knob for other types. I just purchased a 1938 115 on EBay with the rosewood handle. In 1939, the Torpedo handle was on all the Senators.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=001

Back to the Gold reels in this post. I think the first one on the left is a Everol.

ReelMan1988 · Post by **ReelMan1988** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:08 am

Yes, the one on the left is an Everol 18/0. There were only 3 Prototypes made and This is one of them. I recieved it on eBay for $500 and a man contacted me that, the guy was not suppose to sell the reel, and he did. This Everol has the faceplate saying a 14/0 but as you can clearly see it isn't.

m3040c · Post by **m3040c** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:37 pm

Wow, 18/0. It must be designated that way because of the width, the plate diameter does not look like a 18/0 but as with all prototypes, there are no rules.

That's funny that your collections centerpiece is a 9/0 Kovalovsky because so is mine. Mine is a all stainless steel Standard model, probably about 1938, total production about 50 reels.

Araye50 · Post by **Araye50** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:28 pm

Nice! Never saw that big wood 'coffee grinder' knob before, just the early small 'bobbin' shaped knobs & wasn't sure if they weren't hard rubber?

m3040c wrote: I just purchased a 1938 115 on EBay with the rosewood handle. In 1939, the Torpedo handle was on all the Senators.

My 9/0 has a "Torpedo handle" that surprised me, being rosewood.

m3040c · Post by **m3040c** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:23 pm

Hello Araye50,

I know, I had never seen one either. I have the reel and the Coffee grinder knob is solid wood. The early small knobs are some kind of plastic, catalin or bakelite but this one is wood. I have a theory that the small knobs are 1936 and 37. In 1938 I feel that Penn was experimenting because the small knob was exactly that, too small to handle big fish with. That it was a transition year for the handle of the Senator and in that year there may be more than a single type of handle used. I really do not know how many variations there are but now that I have this one, I know there are at least the small one and this one. I say this is a 1938 reel positively because it came in a Lighthouse box with a $27.50 price. 1938 is the only year the Senator 115 was $27.50 and there was a number 6 catalog in the box which is also 1938. What was also interesting about this reel was discovering that the Lighthouse Box started in 1938. I was not sure about that.

Araye50 · Post by **Araye50** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:09 pm

My best guess ended up being '39 for my rosewood torpedo knob 9/0 b/c I'd thought the plastic torpedo knob came in '40, but I do not recall where that gem came from.

m3040c wrote: I say this is a 1938 reel positively because it came in a Lighthouse box with a $27.50 price.

PENN is said to have had an active custom shop operation that has been the legendary excuse for all kinds of improbable configurations, heated arguments, bets & bar fights. I'd heard that a particular woman had worked for decades at PENN cutting the simple 'lollipop' knobs out of lengths of 2 color plastic rod & the combinations of swirled colors is virtually endless. I'd think the experimentation with handles & knobs had a rich history, both inhouse & in the hands of able tinkerers.

m3040c · Post by **m3040c** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:10 pm

Araye50,

I agree about the handles having endless differences and a impossible item to say, ""I have them all"". I have heard about that Lady at Penn also. I heard she would make a custom handle whenever she felt like it.
The Torpedo handle is introduced in Catalog #7, 1939. The pictures in the catalog make the handle look plastic but then again, I am sure variations exist.

Toyman1006,

The third gold reel from the left look like a Finor 12/0. Am I right and is there anything special about that reel?

Mike

ReelMan1988 · Post by **ReelMan1988** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:55 am

Yes, the third reel is a Fin-Nor 12/0. It was made thro the 1950's/1960's. Purchased for $1000. It is in Brand New Shape for being that old.

m3040c · Post by **m3040c** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:58 am

Hello Toyman, I guess nobody wants to play. The two reels on the right are Penn Internationals from somewhere around 1978 or so. I think maybe a 30 and a 50 and the second from the left is also Penn International 130 I believe. The two in the center I am not sure of.

ReelMan1988 · Post by **ReelMan1988** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:39 am

Your getting close, but the picture may make the reels appear smaller. Here's the Gold List:

Everol 18/0, Penn International 130 , Fin-nor 12/0, Mitchell President 12/0

Gladiator 12/0, Penn International 80,

And the Last is a Penn International 50

The Black are all Penn Senators. 16/0 all the way down to 1/0 plus cradle Reels.

If you haven't noticed, we have been trying to achieve all Penn Senators with RED HANDLES!

Still Looking for old Penn Boxes!

m3040c · Post by **m3040c** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:39 am

Thanks, they are a interesting bunch. Here's one I have for sale on EBay right now.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=014

I have others in early 1950's two piece. I have early 3/0's, 4/0's, 6/0's. I have to look to see about the red handles. If you email me privately I may be able to come up with something in particular for you. The one in the EBay ad I put in this post is a new reel in a 1960's box but I have others.

ReelMan1988 · Post by **ReelMan1988** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:25 pm

We have about 7 4/0's All in different Shape. The one listed looks great, but we have a similar one. I'm Looking for boxes such as this. And earlier.

If you have any of these and earlier contact me!
Also we are looking for Penn Advertisment!

m3040c · Post by **m3040c** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:55 pm

OK, I will contact you later today by email.

Dr. Rob · Post by **Dr. Rob** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:34 am

About the Everol... Yeah, it is in fact a 14 / 0 extra-wide. The simple explanation being, that larger diameter bar stock doesn't fit in the machinery at the factory. Bummer; I was sort of thinking of making a one or few-off 20 / 0 with 8" diameter.

I'm surprised the spool is anodised; the others weren't.

You do realize by the way that the scale doesn't match. The drag was beefed up substantially in the move from 14 to 18 / 0.

About the Mitchell, I thought they were called the Mitchell International?

ReelMan1988 · Post by **ReelMan1988** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:51 pm

Here's a better picture of the front of the Mitchell.

Dr. Rob · Post by **Dr. Rob** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:51 pm

...and here's another 18/0, with baby 5000

..and the new drag scale

Post by **john elder** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:45 pm

re baby...must have been the mailman, eh?

ReelMan1988 · Post by **ReelMan1988** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:14 am

Dr. Rob I cannot see the pics of the 18/0, They keep coming up as (X)'s were the pic is suppose to be. Can u e-mail me the pics. Thanks,

Big Lou · Post by **Big Lou** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:03 pm

Hello Toyman, Nice collection,
Do you think the Mitchell and Gladiator are made by the same company? They sure look alike.
And here is my Everol 18/0 beside an Abu 5000. Things might have changed or my story could actually be a little off because more reels were imported. BUT>>>>>
I contacted the distrubutor about the 18/0 a year before it was available. He emailed me one day and said he had two test reels in stock and if I wanted one it was mine. He didn't call them proto types because the reels had been tested extensively before any were shipped. The reason given for no anodizing on spool was a change to design because the spindle had to be beefed up to manage the 90 lbs of drag. Like yours, mine has the 14/0 side plate. I filled it with line to check capacity against the Penn 16/0, Everol holds about 150 yards of 130 mono less than the Penn 16/0. I would be real hesitant to use because I know how saltwater eats bare aluminum.

ReelMan1988 · Post by **ReelMan1988** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:42 am

Ours would be the only one with an anodized spool. I'll take a few pics later to show more about it. And I'll include a reply e-mail from Everol.

ijtolliver · Post by **ijtolliver** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:39 pm

[quote="Toyman1006"]I've recenlty took a Picture of most of our Big Game Reels. Lets see if your really good at telling what a reel is by just looking at them. There's a total of 20 Black Reels and 7 Gold Reels. Here's a Pic of them.

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is the fifth gold one from the left a gladiator? Ipicked up a 12/0, and have been trying to find out something about it. Please help.

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NAME THOSE REELS !!!!!

NAME THOSE REELS !!!!!

Everol 18/0

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