1930 New Yorker Take-a-part No1880 level wind Reel

Old Rider · Post by **Old Rider** » Wed May 19, 2004 10:45 am

I recently inherited the above reel in the Original Box in new Unused condition,It has 100yd of green linen line on it.
Q.? Should I sell it or keep it? I am not a collector or even a fisherman ,nor do I need the money. Will it continue to rise in value?

rayc54 · Post by **rayc54** » Wed May 19, 2004 9:26 pm

Mr. Rider
I would say , the awnser to your Question would be HOW Well, Do you like it, Does it hold a sennamental value to you from the person you received it from.OR, Is it going be, JUST IN YOUR WAY ! If it's just going too be in your way, their is people out in the collector's market that would probablly love to have it and would take great care of it and the box.
AND if you really don't like it and DON"T need the MONEY send it too me, I give it a home for my life time.

thanks; Ray

Post by **john elder** » Wed May 19, 2004 10:02 pm

Dear OR: Stu Lawson's book shows this reel new in box, selling for $75...please note that the price drops to appr $20 for used ones without the box, which shows you that they aren't extremely valuable, but as with almost all old stuff, are worth alot more in pristine condition. Prices have, for the most part, dropped a bit or stayed about the same for all but the rare stuff over the last several years. It is unlikely that this reel will break any records over the next thirty years, if you keep it, but given the condition, it will do no worse than maintain value, is my guess. So, it gets back to what Ray said...if you have a sentimental interest, keep it...even $100 won't fill the RV more than twice these dayz. If you were just keeping it like a savings bond, go buy gas and hunt for other things to stick in your underwear drawer!

best to you,

j

OLD Rider · Post by **OLD Rider** » Thu May 20, 2004 10:00 am

Old Rider wrote:I recently inherited the above reel in the Original Box in new Unused condition,It has 100yd of green linen line on it.
Q.? Should I sell it or keep it? I am not a collector or even a fisherman ,nor do I need the money. Will it continue to rise in value?

Thank both of you gentlemen for your answers.
I guess what I really want to know is, How much is it worth? Where is the best place to sell it? or solicit bids? I have put a inquery up on ebay for months and never saw one out for the bid. One of you saw it in a Mr. Lawson`s book as costing $75.00 new. Well, That was 1930. You could also buy a great used car in 1930 for less than $75. What does this mean?
Is this reel as valuble as a Car? Is it Rare? Is it Common? What would you pay for it?
Thanks
Older Rider

rayc54 · Post by **rayc54** » Thu May 20, 2004 10:41 am

Mr. Rider
I think you miss read JOHN E. quote. The Lawson book is a collector's value book, The reel didn't cost 75.00 in the 30's. What ,HE is telling you that the reel is listed to be worth around 20.00 out of the box, and possibly 75.00 in the box (IF it In very nice shape). The better thing to say is: In the box would make it more difficult to find. (I don't think this mean rare)

Also I have several reels that I would love to get graduated money out of : but it just don't seem to work that way; For example: I have a couple of PFLUEGER , Free speed, bail reels , that both work well and are nice shape... That sold new for 16.95 whosesale, in 1966, I can't seem to get 12.00 each out of them right now.

In your figure : HOW much would 16.95 selling in 1966 be worth in 2004 ?
OH! but I must add (I don't have the boxes for these) IF I remember right my light bill was about 15.00 a month back them and gas was below 25 cents. a gallon.

Hmmm

Dang I starting make my self feel old.

I guess the easy way to find out what you have is: put on ebay (as you had mention) Place a reserve that satisify you. and see if it bring's it. if not you lost only you posting money or place a price that you feel happy with, send me some picture's and I might save you time in listing it on ebay.

You can send picture's to , as with many collectors , picture's are worth a thousand words.

Reel Geezer · Post by **Reel Geezer** » Fri May 21, 2004 8:08 am

This has been an interesting thread to follow. There are several things that have not been mentioned.

The New Yorker is a Bronson generic reel. It never was a valuable reel, and still isn't.

Lawson's Reel Price Guide is a list of reels and their asking (or sale) prices from sales lists, shows, and auctions. The listed price might not have been received. There are 4 examples of New Yorker reels listed in Lawsons. $6., $12, $15, and the mentioned $75 new in box. Mr. Rider's reel cannot be new in box since it has line on it.

I don't believe it's sale can buy you a Hummer, or even a Hundai.

Ron Mc · Post by **Ron Mc** » Fri May 21, 2004 10:12 am

I have a couple of framed pages from Outing Magazine 1917 - Bristol/Meek ads. Meek No. 2 and Meek No. 3 (tournament) were selling for $32 and $35, respectively. That is a lot of change in 1917 bucks. As nice as these reels are, they don't come close to holding up their 1917 value.

Something more rare, like an Otto Zwarg, might.

The Bristol top line metal fly rod with agate guides was $25. You'd be lucky to get much more than that in 2004 dollars for a used one (unless you take off the agates and sell those). Mint condition might be different.

Similar for fiberglass fly rods from the 50s and 60s. (I will admit to fishing these and liking it). $30 from 1955 is what, $300 now?
I know this was a steal, but I paid $25 delivered for a mint Conolon fly rod with perfection guides.

rayc54 · Post by **rayc54** » Fri May 21, 2004 1:03 pm

I like phil's awnser to all of this , I had thought about the line on the reel on the last posting, but forgotten to mention it.
There is one other thing, I still haven't seen a picture of this reel, at least on ebay ,I can run around all day and night looking at picture's , even if I can't afford, to even buy the picture's on some of the reels. IT'S BEEN FUN.

Phantom Fisher · Post by **Phantom Fisher** » Fri May 21, 2004 9:56 pm

There's a terrific online calcuator that allows you to calculate the equivalent cost of things in today's dollars. I've put a link to it on my web site (http://www.fishingstuff.net), but you can access it directly at http://orcaonline.org/images/pixel.gif.

Bear in mind that over a ten-year period, at a 10% annual return, a cash investment would double every ten years. I assume compound interest would shorten the time period.

old rider · Post by **old rider** » Wed May 26, 2004 12:41 pm

OLD Rider wrote:
Old Rider wrote:I recently inherited the above reel in the Original Box in new Unused condition,It has 100yd of green linen line on it.
Q.? Should I sell it or keep it? I am not a collector or even a fisherman ,nor do I need the money. Will it continue to rise in value?
Thank both of you gentlemen for your answers.
I guess what I really want to know is, How much is it worth? Where is the best place to sell it? or solicit bids? I have put a inquery up on ebay for months and never saw one out for the bid. One of you saw it in a Mr. Lawson`s book as costing $75.00 new. Well, That was 1930. You could also buy a great used car in 1930 for less than $75. What does this mean?
Is this reel as valuble as a Car? Is it Rare? Is it Common? What would you pay for it?
Thanks
Older Rider

Gentleman, Thank you for your observations and obvious research. I expected much less and got all I could ask for.
I will get my grandson to take a digital photo and post them on this website and send to all that wanted and left or leave addresses. I can reached at
agin Thank you
older and wiser rider

Ron Mc · Post by **Ron Mc** » Wed May 26, 2004 1:04 pm

(we've enjoyed the discussion old rider, and it wasn't meant to be at your expense)

Laurie, per your calculator, my $30-then fly rod ($25 today) should be worth $229.

Phantom Fisher · Post by **Phantom Fisher** » Wed May 26, 2004 5:25 pm

Ron, I'm not sure how you got that figure. My results from the calculator, for the current (2003) value of $30 in 1955:

$206 (based on the CPI)
$169 (based on the GDP Deflator)
$284 (based on Unskilled Wage)
$453 (based on GDP Per Capita)
$794 (based on the GDP)

My usual preference is for figures based on the Unskilled Wage.

Ron Mc · Post by **Ron Mc** » Fri May 28, 2004 7:12 am

1950 CPI - sorry.

Ron Mc · Post by **Ron Mc** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 3:09 pm

topping this one for the inflation calculator.

Phantom Fisher · Post by **Phantom Fisher** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 7:01 pm

I just reread some of the earlier posts and realized that we wound up answering the wrong question.

The Lawson's value mentioned reflects the current -- or nearly so -- value of the reel in new condition -- not the cost of the item when it was new umpteen years ago.

But it was an entertaining exercise.

SWIM JIG · Post by **SWIM JIG** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:24 pm

Should you look at page 114 of Lawsons 3rd edition ( new yorker 1800 special bc. lw ooc np in MARKED METAL CAN ex -ib $75.00 the key wording is in Marked Metal CAN, these that are readable are worth mor than the reels! as phil said they are just generic Bronsons nice usable fishing reels ! Actualy the cost at $9.95 to clean and lube one with no marked can is more than most of them sell for! and again its only worth what someone else is willing to pay! Your Ohio Conection Col. Milton lorens aka SWIM JIG

1930 New Yorker Take-a-part No1880 level wind Reel

1930 New Yorker Take-a-part No1880 level wind Reel

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